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[21:18] <tanamania> Hi all!
[21:18] <bilkulbekar> lut4rp, son , ihave seen/met many a self proclaimed gods.. which one are you..
[21:18] <tanamania> Have we started?
[21:18] <bilkulbekar> :)
[21:18] <lut4rp> bilkulbekar, indeed, earth people call me Pratul.
[21:19] <dev29aug> I am Devendra Gupta . B.Tech. Final year student from UPTU. I am currently in Greater Noida. I attanded OSSCamp in NSIT last year.
[21:19] <Kinshuk> tanamania, codemastersnake welcome.. we are starting
[21:19] <rubial> tanamania: oh i was looking for sum-it
[21:19] <codemastersnake> Hi Sunil
[21:19] <rubial> he is not online
[21:19] <Kinshuk> lets start
[21:19] <Kinshuk> other will join us
[21:19] <Kinshuk> later
[21:19] <Sparsh> :)
[21:19] <codemastersnake> alright
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[21:19] <tanamania> will try to contact sumit..
[21:19] <Anshu> ok.. so when is the next osscamp?? delhi or solan? :)
[21:20] <Kinshuk> ppl from delhi: are we doing next osscamp delhi ?
[21:20] <rishabhVerma> same question as anshu
[21:20] <tanamania> sumit is studying for his exam..
[21:20] <Sparsh> yes we r doing but
[21:20] <codemastersnake> @Kinshuk depends if I am free
[21:20] <graphicmist> bilkulbekar: hi http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&source=hp&q=graphicmist&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq...
[21:20] <graphicmist> tanamania: kamine mera bhi to hai
[21:20] <bilkulbekar> yes, we were planning for osscamp noida..
[21:20] <lut4rp> goodz.
[21:20] <tanamania> OSScamp Noida! That would be great..
[21:20] <Kinshuk> bilkulbekar, when ?
[21:20] <codemastersnake> Noida will be grate
[21:20] <codemastersnake> *great
[21:21] <Sparsh> but acc. to me we need to foster community in solan also
[21:21] <Sparsh> delhi mein toh ho chuka hai
[21:21] <tanamania> Dates in late-june will suit us..
[21:21] <Kinshuk> Sparsh, we are talking about delhi abhi, not solan
[21:21] <Anshu> @sparsh: we recently has at chandigarh.. it will be too soon to have it in solan..
[21:21] <bilkulbekar> after osscamp solan.. need atleast a month or more to prepare though..
[21:21] <Sparsh> ohhk
[21:21] <bilkulbekar> we can discuss on details though
[21:21] <Kinshuk> bilkulbekar, when are you planning to do it in noida ?
[21:21] <Sparsh> srry i am bat at location
[21:21] <Kinshuk> approcimately ?
[21:21] <Kinshuk> *approximately
[21:22] <bilkulbekar> me, Anshu and nitish are still undecided on it..
[21:22] <Sparsh> ohk
[21:22] <Kinshuk> ok..
[21:22] <bilkulbekar> how about mid july?
[21:22] <lut4rp> Solan will probably get 3.54 attendees
[21:22] <Anshu> @kinshuk thiking of mid june or mid july
[21:22] <Kinshuk> k
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[21:22] <tanamania> late june and mid july will suit us..
[21:22] <Sparsh> june will work !
[21:22] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, 3.54 ? no no.. we are assured of over 100
[21:22] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, in Solan?
[21:22] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, yes
[21:22] <tanamania> @kinshuk my experience tells me that numbers dont matter much
[21:22] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, I find that considerably hard to believe
[21:23] <Kinshuk> solan has 7-8  engg colleges together
[21:23] <tanamania> its the quality of attendance
[21:23] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, where in Solan do you plan to do it?
[21:23] <Kinshuk> solan people assure me of that number
[21:23] <rishabhVerma> we will get an a great number of them form many surrounding areas like shimla and chandigarh
[21:23] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, JP
[21:23] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, oo
[21:23] <lut4rp> then, yes :)
[21:23] <Sparsh> ohk :)
[21:23] <lut4rp> 100 is plausible.
[21:23] <Kinshuk> very much
[21:23] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, any estimates on the date?
[21:23] <Sparsh> i agree wid @tanalania
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[21:23] <Kinshuk> its expected to be somewehre in august
[21:23] <lut4rp> ouch
[21:24] <Kinshuk> but lets not divert to solan abhi
[21:24] <lut4rp> August is DrupalCon time :/
[21:24] <Kinshuk> when is the next camp in delhi ?
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[21:24] <tanamania> Instead of focusing on numbers, we should focus on calling someone influential to the camp..
[21:24] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, http://tinyurl.com/idunnolol
[21:24] <richnusgeeks> hello geekz!!!
[21:24] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, dont worry, nothing is fix yet.. august was suggested because it is then that session starts
[21:24] <shanlalit> I agree with @tanamania
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[21:25] <Sparsh> me 2
[21:25] <lut4rp> tanamania, influential meaning?
[21:25] <tanamania> Hi richnusgeeks
[21:25] <Kinshuk> tanamania, lut4rp is influential enough ;)
[21:25] <rishabarora> linus would be busy this time of the year
[21:25] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, O_o
[21:25] <Sparsh> lolzz
[21:25] <tanamania> I mean someone whom people know..
[21:25] <richnusgeeks> richard stallamn
[21:25] <lut4rp> lol Stallman
[21:25] <Kinshuk> ha ha
[21:25] <lut4rp> no rms please :)
[21:25] <lut4rp> we don't want terrorists :)
[21:26] <rishabhVerma> lol
[21:26]  * lut4rp runs
[21:26] <tanamania> yeah stallman is possible..
[21:26] <Kinshuk> bilkulbekar, Anshu when do you guys think you will have a decent plan ?
[21:26] <richnusgeeks> lol
[21:26] <rishabarora> lol
[21:26] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, do it in Amity Noida
[21:26] <Sparsh> :P
[21:26] <lut4rp> good infra.
[21:26] <Anshu> after 19th :)
[21:26] <lut4rp> good location.
[21:26] <tanamania> he will be here for tech fest of IIT-guwahati
[21:26] <lut4rp> huge crowd.
[21:26] <rishabarora> sounds good
[21:26] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, thts wht bilkulbekar and Anshu are planning
[21:26] <Sparsh> ohk
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[21:26] <richnusgeeks> who rms?
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[21:26] <bilkulbekar> we are planning in amity, noida.. but we havent started yet..
[21:26] <Anshu> we are planning for Amity NOida
[21:26] <Kinshuk> tanamania, we do have an osscamp in the tech fest of iit guwahiti as well - sept 5
[21:27] <ToXBoT_> Hey people!
[21:27] <bilkulbekar> lets discuss on dates here itself..
[21:27] <codemastersnake> Amity would be nice
[21:27] <lut4rp> Anshu, bilkulbekar very good.
[21:27] <siddhantsatija> wat r the plans abt nxt osscamp delhi
[21:27] <lut4rp> Anshu, bilkulbekar any expected dates?
[21:27] <Anshu> thanks @lut4rp
[21:27] <Sparsh> ye @siddhant
[21:27] <Anshu> :)
[21:27] <lut4rp> Folks. You don't need to @ people on IRC. This is not twitter.
[21:27] <bilkulbekar> sidhhantsatija, we are planning to have in noida instead of delhi
[21:27] <lut4rp> :p
[21:27] <Sparsh> :p
[21:27] <siddhantsatija> noida would be a much better option
[21:27] <Anshu> lut4rp, we are planning to have in mid july..
[21:28] <Kinshuk> mid july sounds good to me
[21:28] <lut4rp> Anshu, great.
[21:28] <siddhantsatija> mee tooo
[21:28] <tanamania> OSScamp at IIT Guwahati!!
[21:28] <Sparsh> CAN JULY WORK ?
[21:28] <richnusgeeks> but plz don't allow mayawati otherwise tat wud be statues conf
[21:28] <richnusgeeks> lol
[21:28] <tanamania> When did that happen..
[21:28] <Kinshuk> ha ha
[21:28] <Sparsh> :p
[21:28] <bilkulbekar> yes, and in no way before that. mid-end july
[21:28] <Kinshuk> tanamania, one of the folks at osscamp chd - babul gogoi, is working on it
[21:29] <Sparsh> YES I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT TI !
[21:29] <Kinshuk> should we call a vote for osscamp noida in mid-july at amity ?
[21:29] <richnusgeeks> ya! babul a gr8 guy
[21:29] <lut4rp> Sparsh, stuck caps lock? :)
[21:29] <siddhantsatija> yeahhhh
[21:29] <siddhantsatija> amity noida
[21:29] <siddhantsatija> sounds good
[21:29] <bilkulbekar> sparsh, mid july is tentative.. not a final date
[21:29] <richnusgeeks> it sounds good
[21:29] <shanlalit> +1
[21:29] <tanamania> @kinshuk +1 from my side..
[21:29] <Kinshuk> +1
[21:29] <siddhantsatija> amity has a lot of oss developers itseld
[21:29] <rishabhVerma> sounds good
[21:29] <lut4rp> siddhantsatija, wat
[21:29] <Sparsh> ohhk
[21:29] <codemastersnake> goo for me too
[21:29] <rishabarora> aye
[21:29] <lut4rp> siddhantsatija, it does?
[21:29] <Kinshuk> lol
[21:30] <richnusgeeks> why not an osscamp mag like geekszine
[21:30] <siddhantsatija> yaaah
[21:30] <Sparsh> will work !
[21:30] <Kinshuk> siddhantsatija, no they dont
[21:30]  * lut4rp has doesn't know of any
[21:30] <Kinshuk> siddhantsatija, dont count joomla, wordpress and drupal consumers
[21:30] <siddhantsatija> <kinshuk>  developer girls r a lot there:P
[21:30] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, that is the objective of osscamp blog
[21:30] <graphicmist> lol
[21:30] <graphicmist> siddhantsatija: developer girls
[21:30] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, but lets talk abt the blog/mag later
[21:30] <siddhantsatija> :P
[21:30] <tanamania> I think we should first decide on the camp
[21:31] <richnusgeeks> c blog n printed materials have different influences, just a thinking
[21:31] <lut4rp> The next person who says Drupal consumer gets a punch on his face.
[21:31] <richnusgeeks> ok!
[21:31] <tanamania> mid-july at amity... that would be great!
[21:31] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, we'll come to that later, lets follow the flow of agenda
[21:31] <rishabhVerma> i agree with richnusgeeks
[21:31] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, :-s ?
[21:31] <rishabhVerma> k
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[21:31] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, contribute || die();
[21:31] <siddhantsatija> do we have some CMS in JAVA as we have in PHP
[21:32]  * lut4rp points to Java and laughs
[21:32] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, thts wht i say as well.. which is why i said "dont count" drupal consumers
[21:32] <tanamania> OSScamp at Amity Noida in mid july, will we have another one in delhi before that?
[21:32] <richnusgeeks> n a theme to every osscamp
[21:32]  * graphicmist goes with lut4rp
[21:32] <Kinshuk> siddhantsatija, Alfresco
[21:32] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, elaborate
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[21:32]  * lut4rp hifives graphicmist
[21:32] <bilkulbekar> siddhant, yes, we have that..
[21:32] <richnusgeeks> I put my 2 cents for Amity, mid July
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[21:33] <lut4rp> richnusgeeks, This is not foreign exchange. Please provide Indian currency only.
[21:33] <codemastersnake> i think Kinshuk should start an online poll on the Amity matter
[21:33] <Kinshuk> imho, first agenda topic is done - osscamp noida, mid july, amity noida
[21:33] <siddhantsatija> alfresco has sm limitations..
[21:33] <lut4rp> codemastersnake, lol no. Polls suck.
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[21:33] <rishabarora> mubarak ho
[21:33] <siddhantsatija> sounds good
[21:33] <richnusgeeks> ok! my lotza indian money, lol
[21:33] <Kinshuk> codemastersnake, why dont you create a poll on the osscamp website ?
[21:33] <tanamania> @kinshuk any OSScamp Delhi before that?
[21:33] <siddhantsatija> i wud take a lead here
[21:33] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, wat NO.
[21:33] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, NO POLLS.
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[21:33] <lut4rp> Its done, decided.
[21:33] <siddhantsatija> at amity noida
[21:33] <codemastersnake> lut4rp, lol!!!
[21:33] <Kinshuk> tanamania, not too frequenly pls
[21:34] <Kinshuk> i am fine with both - poll or no poll
[21:34] <anshuverma> tanamania.. i dont think we will have any osscamp before the noida one..
[21:34] <Kinshuk> waise bhi ppl who are here, they count
[21:34] <tanamania> okes.. but what about the permissions and other formalities for Amity?
[21:34] <Kinshuk> so lets move on to next topic ?
[21:34] <BaloneyGeek> Hi guys. Boudhayan Gupta, from Kokata. What did I miss?
[21:34] <siddhantsatija> i will manage fr amity
[21:34] <lut4rp> Which is?
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[21:34] <Kinshuk> tanamania, that is the headache of anshu, bilkulbekar, siddhantsatija and nitish jha ?
[21:34] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, welcome
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[21:34] <siddhantsatija> i am the core team member of open source club at amity
[21:34] <Kinshuk> you only missed our discussion about next osscamp delhi
[21:35] <BaloneyGeek> okay
[21:35] <Kinshuk> siddhantsatija, work with anshuverma bilkulbekar pls.. lets move one
[21:35] <bilkulbekar> getting permissions is least of our concern, m more worried abt the content
[21:35] <siddhantsatija> r they both frm amity
[21:35] <tanamania> @siddhantsatija so are u sure about getting permissions for the camp..
[21:35] <siddhantsatija> ?
[21:35] <siddhantsatija> yaaah i wud manage that
[21:35] <tanamania> that would be great!!
[21:35] <Kinshuk> bilkulbekar, tanamania anshuverma siddhantsatija this is not osscamp delhi organisers chat :(
[21:35] <lut4rp> FOLKS. CUT OUT THE AMITY PART.
[21:35] <Kinshuk> lets move on
[21:35] <anshuverma> siddhantsatija are from amity, noida?
[21:36] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, ok what else?
[21:36] <anshuverma> are you *
[21:36] <tanamania> @lut4rp why so?
[21:36]  * bilkulbekar is baffled
[21:36] <rishabarora> wats next?
[21:36] <siddhantsatija> yes im frm amity noida
[21:36] <richnusgeeks> chalo Amity, mid July tentative
[21:36] <codemastersnake> Nxt topic?
[21:36] <Kinshuk> next was OSScamp Solan - but i dont think any local guy is here
[21:36] <Kinshuk> so lets skip that as well
[21:36] <lut4rp> tanamania, we're done deciding on Amity. Leave everything else to the Amity folks :)
[21:36] <rishabarora> ok
[21:36] <Kinshuk> what say ?
[21:36] <tanamania> talking about camp at noida, can u ppl suggest someone whom we can call there?
[21:36] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, sounds good.
[21:36] <BaloneyGeek> Solan as in Himachal?
[21:37] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, yes
[21:37] <rishabhVerma> yup
[21:37] <lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, yeah
[21:37] <tanamania> i mean someone from the industry of from any other influential background..
[21:37] <Kinshuk> skip?
[21:37] <rishabarora> skip
[21:37] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, skipped.
[21:37] <lut4rp> Next? :)
[21:37] <Kinshuk> tanamania, that is a diff discussion bhai, lets move on
[21:37] <siddhantsatija> i can try asking ceo of apnacircle.com as a guest
[21:37] <Kinshuk> OSScamp.in Website
[21:37] <siddhantsatija> yes the website
[21:37] <Kinshuk> FOLKS! No Inviting Guests at Camp !!!!!!!
[21:37] <richnusgeeks> All industry people wud like to promote close concepts like cloud ; (
[21:37] <lut4rp> FOLKS. CALLING PEOPLE IS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. WAIT FOR IT.
[21:37] <siddhantsatija> okie no guests
[21:37] <Kinshuk> Dont "INVITE"
[21:38] <Kinshuk> jo aayega, wo aayega
[21:38] <lut4rp> right.
[21:38] <lut4rp> true.
[21:38] <siddhantsatija> right
[21:38] <tanamania> ok.. we wont discuss that abhi..
[21:38]  * bilkulbekar wants ppl to move on from osscamp at noida
[21:38] <tanamania> lets move on..
[21:38] <rishabhVerma> i agree with <Kinshuk> , have learnt from osscmap chd
[21:38] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, what else?
[21:38] <richnusgeeks> Ya! open source bole to fully bt free will
[21:38] <Kinshuk> OSScamp.in
[21:38] <Kinshuk> is fail and broke
[21:38] <lut4rp> lol
[21:38]  * lut4rp hides
[21:38] <siddhantsatija> osscamp website
[21:38] <siddhantsatija> ?
[21:38] <lut4rp> yeah
[21:38] <tanamania> yeah the site..
[21:39] <BaloneyGeek> what about it?
[21:39] <Kinshuk> we need to forge a team, create an architecture and build it
[21:39] <siddhantsatija> drupal or smthng else nw?
[21:39] <richnusgeeks> why not to run oss site on a wiki engine like moinmoin
[21:39] <Kinshuk> and port existing content
[21:39] <Kinshuk> i would like to stick with drupal
[21:39] <lut4rp> WHAT. NO DRUPAL?!!?!?
[21:39] <BaloneyGeek> WordPress
[21:39] <tanamania> Drupal is perfect for site reuirements
[21:39] <lut4rp> <stab> \
[21:39] <lut4rp> <stab>
[21:39] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, cant extend it like we have done with osscamp.in abhi.. cant automate stuff
[21:39] <rishabhVerma> elgg ??
[21:39] <BaloneyGeek> Yeah, but wouldn't it be overkill?
[21:39] <tanamania> we dont need a wiki for the site
[21:39] <Kinshuk> who all here are drupalers ?
[21:39] <richnusgeeks> we can do man n that too in python
[21:39] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, why so?
[21:39] <lut4rp> I'm not a Drupaler.
[21:40] <BaloneyGeek> Drupal is kinda heavy
[21:40] <lut4rp> I've never used Drupal. But I'll help.
[21:40] <BaloneyGeek> on features
[21:40] <lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, lolwot
[21:40] <bilkulbekar> python sounds good.. m a pythoner..
[21:40] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, :|
[21:40] <bilkulbekar> :P
[21:40] <richnusgeeks> see moinmoin is a cms
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[21:40] <lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, Drupal is as light as they come :)
[21:40] <Kinshuk> how do we port existing data ?
[21:40] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, :p
[21:40] <richnusgeeks> n no database blues, flat storage
[21:40] <lut4rp> OK STOP
[21:40] <graphicmist> Oh Osscamp siye
[21:40] <lut4rp> STOP. NOW.
[21:40] <graphicmist> i can help
[21:40] <siddhantsatija> <kinshuk> im coming up with a drupal portal with more than 100 modules
[21:40] <BaloneyGeek> WordPress would be really good to rign a site with less content
[21:40] <siddhantsatija> in 10 days
[21:40] <BaloneyGeek> *run
[21:40] <anshuverma> lut4rp, no to drupal?? i thought u love drupal.. btw, drupal is perfect for osscamp website..
[21:40] <lut4rp> Right... So, point wise now.
[21:41] <lut4rp> anshuverma, I was kidding.
[21:41] <lut4rp> :p
[21:41] <siddhantsatija> it can be taken as an example
[21:41] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, take the lead pls
[21:41] <anshuverma> :P
[21:41] <tanamania> we need a team!!
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[21:41] <siddhantsatija> custom aquia marina is used
[21:41] <tanamania> drupal is perfect, we need not change that!
[21:41] <Kinshuk> siddhantsatija, do minute chup bhai
[21:41] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, porting what data?
[21:41] <tanamania> who all are ready to be a part of the development team?
[21:41] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, nothing.. tht was for ppl wanting to change from drupal
[21:42] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, we're sticking to Drupal.
[21:42] <lut4rp> what else?
[21:42] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, yes
[21:42] <richnusgeeks> k!
[21:42] <BaloneyGeek> would have volunteered, except have not much experience iun drupal
[21:42] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, we need a team to build and maintain the website
[21:42] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, can you design ?
[21:42] <tanamania> @lut4rp @kinshuk We need a core team of developers..
[21:42] <BaloneyGeek> no
[21:42] <Kinshuk> tanamania, yes
[21:42] <Kinshuk> I volunteer
[21:42] <Kinshuk> who else ?
[21:42] <graphicmist> me too
[21:42] <rishabhVerma> <tanamania> count me in :)
[21:42] <BaloneyGeek> would design be artwork or php coding?
[21:42] <siddhantsatija> i too
[21:42] <tanamania> we need to list the problems and try to fix them one at a time..
[21:43] <lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, artwork.
[21:43] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, artwork
[21:43] <BaloneyGeek> dunno
[21:43] <BaloneyGeek> i can't
[21:43] <graphicmist> Kinshuk: once tried it using assembla
[21:43] <siddhantsatija> CSS work
[21:43] <graphicmist> but noone came forward
[21:43] <lut4rp> WAIT. STOP EVERYONE.
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[21:43] <tanamania> listing of problems is the main thing, all of us can contribute to it
[21:43] <lut4rp> I did the first website.
[21:43] <lut4rp> let me very clearly tell you, this is not a small thing
[21:43] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, thinks he did :P
[21:43] <BaloneyGeek> I can do some of the add-ons stuff, perhaps some light coding
[21:44] <lut4rp> Something like a custom theme is very tough.
[21:44] <lut4rp> Something like this needs dedication and constant work
[21:44]  * graphicmist agree with lut4rp
[21:44] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, luckily.. yadu rajiv is now a good drupal themer :D
[21:44] <lut4rp> Something like this can't "just be done"
[21:44] <graphicmist> custom themeing is tough
[21:44] <richnusgeeks> ok! not a good idea to break the older stuff, my idea was if thinking to start a new site
[21:44] <tanamania> lut4rp why the demotivation!
[21:44] <graphicmist> NO
[21:44] <lut4rp> tanamania, that's a fact.
[21:44] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, we might need to do a lot of architecture work from scratch.. but no new site
[21:44] <lut4rp> Its not demotivation, let me tell you
[21:45] <richnusgeeks> k!
[21:45] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, first, tell me what is broken
[21:45] <graphicmist> richnusgeeks: starting from scratch is not that easy
[21:45] <Kinshuk> tanamania, that is love and respect for drupal :D
[21:45] <deepak_> can we oss camp in bvcoe,delhi???
[21:45] <tanamania> the site is good, we just need to list the problems..
[21:45] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, views are and the signup process
[21:45] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, views? as in views.module ?
[21:45] <Kinshuk> deepak_, ?
[21:45] <richnusgeeks> no refactoring, ok!
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[21:45] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, yes
[21:45] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, even though i updated to latest stable views
[21:45] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, what exactly is broken?
[21:46] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, half of my views dont work anymore
[21:46] <deepak_> actully if it possible to organise oss camp in my college
[21:46] <Kinshuk> waise
[21:46] <siddhantsatija> <kinshuk> yadu sir can customize d theme a bit
[21:46] <deepak_> ?
[21:46] <anshuverma> deepak,, next osscamp happening at amity, noida.. in july..
[21:46] <tanamania> lut4rp kinshuk i think we should list the errors in the site first..
[21:46] <Kinshuk> lets not make this a website development chat either
[21:46] <richnusgeeks> can't we have some simple standards for oss site for the future?
[21:46] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, can you meet me?
[21:46] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, elaborate
[21:46] <richnusgeeks> n freeze those
[21:46] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, sure thing.. we'll discuss when and where after this
[21:46] <tanamania> lut4rp kinshuk all of us can contribute to that
[21:46] <graphicmist> what the hell is happening here?
[21:46] <Kinshuk> ok
[21:47] <richnusgeeks> during every osscamp the layout is somewhat different
[21:47] <Kinshuk> then i will do this
[21:47] <lut4rp> graphicmist, low SNR.
[21:47] <deepak_> okk
[21:47] <Kinshuk> create an osscamp orject on github or somplace
[21:47] <graphicmist> lol
[21:47] <Kinshuk> and then we can use that for all discussions and brainstorming and development
[21:47] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, nope.
[21:47] <lut4rp> Again, don't do that.
[21:47] <richnusgeeks> look at google page, simple yet effective
[21:47] <shanlalit> Github is good idea
[21:47] <lut4rp> Its pointless.
[21:47] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, kyu ?
[21:47] <lut4rp> We do not need 300 brains working on a website. We need it to be simple and small and efficient.
[21:47] <lut4rp> Lets focus the crowd work elsewhere.
[21:47] <richnusgeeks> just decide on some layout n follow that everytime
[21:48] <siddhantsatija> why not have the discussion over the oss website only
[21:48] <tanamania> listing out the problems in the site is most important, so that we can approach them one at a time..
[21:48] <BaloneyGeek> Why GIT? WHat coding will need VCS?
[21:48] <rishabarora> i second that
[21:48] <lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, I agree :)
[21:48] <Kinshuk> ok
[21:48] <Kinshuk> but right now the website is not functional
[21:48] <Kinshuk> it doesnt tell much about what osscamps are
[21:48] <Kinshuk> past osscamps
[21:48] <siddhantsatija> A THING OF CONCERN <KINSHUK> SPAM MAILS R BEING SENT TO OSSCAMP WEBSITE REGISTERED USERS
[21:48] <richnusgeeks> GIT is the dsributed one, vcs sucks a big way for modern stuff
[21:48] <Kinshuk> doesnt handle current osscamp registrations well
[21:48] <Kinshuk> has nothing for future osscamps
[21:48] <lut4rp> siddhantsatija, wqat
[21:48] <lut4rp> spam mails?
[21:49] <lut4rp> siddhantsatija, elaborate.
[21:49] <tanamania> we can have a forum where people list the problems they face with the site..
[21:49] <tanamania> telling the problems haphazardly here wont help
[21:49] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, bots harvest our display of emails in the registration list
[21:49] <anshuverma> yeah.. have recieved many spam mails.
[21:49] <Kinshuk> pls record all ideas and suggestions about osscamp.in here - http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=29058355576&topic=14350
[21:50] <BaloneyGeek> We can also have an event management right on the site. Listing the next event, possibly displaying a second-by-second countdown timer
[21:50] <BaloneyGeek> RSVPs
[21:50] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, I'm willing to work on the site, but only with a select bunch of people. We need this to be *very small*
[21:50] <richnusgeeks> facebook another evil : ((
[21:50] <BaloneyGeek> Sort of like facebook events
[21:50] <lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, we already do that
[21:50] <BaloneyGeek> just found it
[21:50] <BaloneyGeek> my bad
[21:50] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, we don't need "zomg oooh shiny pink ponies" stuff :)
[21:50] <Kinshuk> no we dont
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[21:50] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, do you know I'm in Noida now? :)
[21:50] <Kinshuk> but we need usability
[21:50] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, nope
[21:50] <richnusgeeks> ya! we need some simple but consistent stuff
[21:51] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, I shifted :)
[21:51] <lut4rp> richnusgeeks, I agree with the consistency part.
[21:51] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, good.. fir fatafat milenge
[21:51] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, so, lets meet up, you me and yadu.
[21:51] <lut4rp> we'll talk the website out.
[21:51] <Kinshuk> sure thing
[21:51] <Kinshuk> ok
[21:51] <lut4rp> Lets move on to other topics now.
[21:51] <Kinshuk> but we also have to ensure that those who wanna contribute to website, can
[21:51] <richnusgeeks> so why not to decide a standard for osscamp site, something simple n light
[21:52] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, pls record the idea in detail on the facebook discussion board
[21:52] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, IMO contributions should be content not backend
[21:52] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, like, past camps, next camps, what happened etc.
[21:52] <lut4rp> Lets keep the dev work to limited people.
[21:52] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, will have to figure it out
[21:52] <Kinshuk> ok
[21:52] <BaloneyGeek> I'm more of a coder than a writer
[21:53] <Kinshuk> lets do one thing
[21:53] <richnusgeeks> ok! the core people who are long involved in osssite should be there for the time being
[21:53] <tanamania> before adding new functionalities to the site, we should fix the errors first
[21:53] <richnusgeeks> n new people should start from the front end
[21:53] <Kinshuk> for now record ideas on the facebook topic.. let me yadu and lut4rp figure out the process for now.. and then we can build a team as needed
[21:53] <tanamania> i am ready to contribute to the content, count me in for that
[21:53] <richnusgeeks> screwing up the engine overnight is a bad idea
[21:53] <shanlalit> Having GitHub project will help people will send a pull request if they think they did something good to be included in the project...reset of the core contributers keep working on the major stuff.
[21:54] <lut4rp> shanlalit, too complex, not needed.
[21:54] <lut4rp> anything that is removable should be removed. :)
[21:54] <richnusgeeks> repository could be GitHub or Launchpad etc.
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[21:54] <BaloneyGeek> Why is a "repository" needed for something like a website?
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[21:55] <Kinshuk_> i got dc.. wht did i miss ?
[21:55] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, nothing useful
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[21:55] <Kinshuk_> sum-it, namaste
[21:55] <graphicmist> i will be back .. from my own pc
[21:55] <sum-it> Kinshuk_: hi :)
[21:55] <Kinshuk_> so lets move to toher topics ?
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[21:55] <lut4rp> right, lets do that
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[21:55] <tanamania> are we done with the site?
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[21:56] <lut4rp> what else?
[21:56] <Kinshuk_> are we recording ideas about the site on the facebook topic ?
[21:56] <Kinshuk_> next up is some community initiatives
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[21:56] <Kinshuk_> we as a community are super fail
[21:56] <tanamania> i think a spreadsheet in a particular format would be better
[21:56] <Kinshuk_> all we do is camps.. and dont do anything for foss at all
[21:56] <richnusgeeks> Plz elaborate
[21:56] <tanamania> that would be easier
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[21:56] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, hawwwww
[21:56] <rishabarora> should we adopt a project?
[21:56] <rishabhVerma> i want to discuss starting of osscamp momthly meetup in chd
[21:56] <lut4rp> Kinshuk, speak for yourself, BOI :)
[21:57] <BaloneyGeek> like, contribute code to projects? Or spread Linux? Give away free CDs?
[21:57] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, i am talking about as a community, not individuals
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[21:57] <lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, no free giveaways :)
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[21:57] <rishabhVerma> how about monthly meetups ??
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[21:57] <richnusgeeks> Ubuntu shipit ship free cds
[21:57] <lut4rp> Kinshuk_, the community can not contribute together, we can definitely show *how* to contribute
[21:57] <sum-it> we have discussed something related to project undertaking in last irc meet also. any one remember that?
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[21:57] <richnusgeeks> so we cud get n distribute
[21:57] <tanamania> rishabVerma why meetups???
[21:58] <graphicmist> sum-it: aa gaya..
[21:58] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, are we doing it ?
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[21:58] <BaloneyGeek> Yeah, but people want openSUSE and Mandriva and stuff
[21:58] <lut4rp> Kinshuk_, we have tried that.
[21:58] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, functional ?
[21:58] <BaloneyGeek> Fedora free media closes within the first 60 seconds
[21:58] <lut4rp> Kinshuk_, don't know.
[21:58] <rishabhVerma> <tanamania> then we can ave camps only
[21:58] <richnusgeeks> Ok! we people usually download those so why not copy n distribute?
[21:58] <lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, getting Linux is not the issue now.
[21:58] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, thts exactly what i want to find out and answer
[21:58] <bilkulbekar> i second lut4rp, let the contribution to foss be on individual basis
[21:58] <richnusgeeks> I'm ready for Puppy, Mepis n others
[21:58] <rishabarora> how about awareness drives in industrial complexes? :P
[21:58] <rishabhVerma> but i want something which is done on regularly each month in a particular city
[21:58] <lut4rp> Kinshuk_, the answer is easy... That it is *not* easy :)
[21:59] <tanamania> can anyone here define OSScamps?
[21:59] <lut4rp> Kinshuk_, people think it is, but its a lot of work and its dirty. It needs dedication.
[21:59] <richnusgeeks> Ok! monthly FOSS events
[21:59] <lut4rp> HOLD IT.
[21:59] <tanamania> that would help us in carrying this discussion further.
[21:59] <lut4rp> HOLD IT PEOPLE.
[21:59] <Kinshuk_> don run multiple threads pls
[21:59] <lut4rp> right, we're Linux 0.99
[21:59] <graphicmist> low SNR
[21:59] <lut4rp> we dont support preemptive.
[21:59] <lut4rp> :p
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[22:00] <richnusgeeks> ok! wait()
[22:00] <Kinshuk_> tanamania, definition: http://osscamp.in/introduction
[22:00]  * bilkulbekar wil prefer to watch India v/s WI 20-20
[22:00] <shanlalit> :)
[22:00] <Kinshuk_> bilkulbekar, you do have the option of law of two feet :P
[22:00] <sanchitgulati> bekar hi rahega.
[22:00] <Kinshuk_> sanchitgulati, lol
[22:00] <Kinshuk_> back to topic
[22:00] <lut4rp> Kinshuk_, I'm willing to help with contributing.
[22:00] <Kinshuk_> shall we ?
[22:00] <sanchitgulati> yup
[22:01] <Kinshuk_> should i suggest what i have in mind ?
[22:01] <sum-it> Kinshuk_: yeah sure
[22:01] <rishabarora> pls
[22:01] <lut4rp> Kinshuk_, of course :)
[22:01] <richnusgeeks> A monthly event at some schools
[22:01] <tanamania> Kinshuk_ good, now taking this definition, we know that camps are for "promoting FOSS implementation and development in India."
[22:01] <richnusgeeks> local event
[22:01] <bilkulbekar> kinshuk, we are alredi contributing on individual basis, but what you have in mind?
[22:01] <rishabhVerma> i know the state of FLOSS at most of the schools of chd
[22:01] <Ankur> hey i just joined
[22:01] <rishabhVerma> it is pathetic
[22:01] <tanamania> the best way to do is to spread FOSS
[22:01] <Kinshuk_> highlighting foss projects and ensure that development happens there
[22:01] <Ankur> kinshuk
[22:01] <Ankur> i read your tweets
[22:01] <richnusgeeks> so it's a nice opportunity
[22:01] <BaloneyGeek> Out here in my school, our textbooks are mere manuals of Windows and Office
[22:01] <Ankur> gud to hear about the school
[22:01] <Ankur> :)
[22:02] <Kinshuk_> erm
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[22:02] <rishabhVerma> same is the case in mine
[22:02] <richnusgeeks> so we'll choose some school every month
[22:02] <sum-it> BaloneyGeek: help @nsisodiya with SchoolOS ;)
[22:02] <sanchitgulati> is kinshuk speaking?
[22:02]  * Kinshuk_ is trying to make sense of the other threads
[22:02] <graphicmist> sum-it: schoolOS is now PantOS
[22:02] <BaloneyGeek> sum-it: WOE is that?
[22:03] <sum-it> graphicmist: shhhhh....... aise publically nahi :P
[22:03] <rishabhVerma> they don't even tell a word about what linux, and when we try to tell the class what linux is, teacher feels we are interruptin
[22:03] <graphicmist> :)
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[22:03] <Kinshuk_> graphicmist, tu apne ns-fever se bahar aayega ?
[22:03] <sanchitgulati> are we changing topics !
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[22:03] <@lut4rp> Right.
[22:03] <@lut4rp> Quiet now everyone. Let Kinshuk_ lead the threads.
[22:03] <@lut4rp> Lets not jump around with our own inputs, we need to focus :)
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[22:03] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, thx
[22:03] <richnusgeeks> C let's go to a school, put Puppy Linux live cd in their comp n show how FOSS could make a difference, so simple!
[22:03] <BaloneyGeek> rishabhVerma: Out here in my school, they treat Linux as a god
[22:04] <Kinshuk_> lol
[22:04] <BaloneyGeek> Un-acheievable
[22:04] <rishabarora> kinshuk, how wud u 'highlight' them? smthng like 'project of the minth' on the website?
[22:04] <BaloneyGeek> Like, no one can ever learn to use it
[22:04] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk_, so you said hilight projects and contribute to them?
[22:04] <rishabarora> *month
[22:04] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, let me start afresh
[22:04] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk_, ok
[22:04] <Kinshuk_> i have three ideas in mind
[22:04] <@lut4rp> go ahead.
[22:04] <sanchitgulati> yay!
[22:04] <rishabhVerma> tell :)
[22:04] <tanamania> Kinshuk_ go on
[22:04] <Kinshuk_> 1. FOSS Directory, 2. FOSS Marketplace, 3. FOSS Knowledge base
[22:05] <richnusgeeks> Baloney people wanna use but they don't have the starting clue
[22:05] <Kinshuk_> let me talk about them one by one
[22:05] <sanchitgulati> listening..
[22:05] <Kinshuk_> FOSS Directory = directory of people contributing to foss, plus foss projects
[22:05] <Kinshuk_> FOSS Marketplace is where foss projects can request contribution or funds
[22:05] <Kinshuk_> FOSS Knwoledge base is a ezine-cum-helpdesk
[22:06] <BaloneyGeek> not bad
[22:06] <tanamania> sounds good
[22:06] <rishabhVerma> nice
[22:06] <BaloneyGeek> except that the Knowledge base would be a humongous thing
[22:06] <rishabarora> superb....
[22:06] <Kinshuk_> we already have half of directory on osscamp.in, only not presented in a suitable way - we ask in profile "do you contribute to foss", those who do, can be listed in the directory
[22:06] <Ankur> cool
[22:06] <BaloneyGeek> if it encompasses every single FOSS project
[22:06] <Kinshuk_> BaloneyGeek, difficult, but we can start with small efforts
[22:06] <Kinshuk_> next
[22:07] <tanamania> but we need a solid groundwork for this
[22:07] <bilkulbekar> for idea 1, how do you plan to incorporate people who are not a part of osscamp..
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[22:07] <Kinshuk_> in all the camps we do, we can do fundraisers or hackathons to contribute to a "project of the camp" which nwill be selected somehow
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[22:07] <@lut4rp> I think FOSS knowledgebase is not a good idea, the rest are fine.
[22:07] <Kinshuk_> bilkulbekar, obv the person has to be registered on osscamp.in
[22:07] <@lut4rp> There already exists a *MASSIVE* kb of data
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[22:07] <@lut4rp> We should work/contribute to that, than add to more noise
[22:07] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, we need to make that accessible, not create "new" data
[22:08] <BaloneyGeek> and besides, Ubuntuforum has solutions for everything. Even windows viruses
[22:08] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk_, accessible? I don't get you
[22:08] <Kinshuk_> lol
[22:08] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, totally :D
[22:08] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, like you said, there is already too much noise
[22:08] <jassik> why you need peeps to be registered on osscamp.in
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[22:09] <Kinshuk_> jassik, that is the easiest way of getting data
[22:09] <tanamania> we are discussing only for the developers here, not spreading FOSS, as is defined in the "definition"
[22:09] <Kinshuk_> btw, osscamp.in desperately needs facebook, google, twitter authentication :(
[22:09] <Kinshuk_> tanamania, ?
[22:09] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk_, o_O
[22:09] <jassik> data of what?
[22:09] <BaloneyGeek> How about something to promote obscure and uncommon projects?
[22:09] <richnusgeeks> oauth
[22:09] <@lut4rp> jassik, hey man!
[22:09] <Kinshuk_> BaloneyGeek, foss marketplace is just for that
[22:09] <tanamania> Kinshuk_ working on projects is something a geeks affair
[22:09] <jassik> hey lut4rp
[22:09] <BaloneyGeek> But you said it was for funding
[22:10] <BaloneyGeek> *Kinshuk
[22:10] <Kinshuk_> BaloneyGeek, contribution and funding
[22:10] <tanamania> Kinshuk_ we need common people to use FOSS
[22:10] <Kinshuk_> tanamania, do you want more consumers and endusers ?
[22:10] <tanamania> Kinshuk_ exactly!
[22:10] <Kinshuk_> tanamania, i want contributors - not coders, documentators, translators, designers
[22:10] <tanamania> we need to think big
[22:11] <rishabhVerma> I can try some workshop in my school
[22:11] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk_, wat
[22:11] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk_, all those are contributors.
[22:11] <tanamania> we need to bring about a change from the grassroot level, that is the school level
[22:11] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, i meant not **only coders
[22:11] <rishabarora> exactly
[22:11] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk_, oh :)
[22:11] <bilkulbekar> rishabVerma, get out of your school please.. :-)
[22:11] <@lut4rp> ok
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[22:11] <tanamania> and that can be done only when common people use FOSS for their daily works
[22:11] <tanamania> and that is what we as a community shuld do
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[22:12] <BaloneyGeek> bilkulbekar: We can't have that. We need to deal individually with each school
[22:12] <richnusgeeks> See, without touching our roots we can't reach up so school is very important
[22:12] <Kinshuk_> tanamania, to be able to do that it is very essential for us to understand and accept foss ourselves
[22:12] <@lut4rp> OK I have one pretty sure way for people interested in code contributions
[22:12] <BaloneyGeek> But we need to deal with the boards forst
[22:12] <BaloneyGeek> ICSE and CBSe
[22:12] <Kinshuk_> lut4rp, pls elaborate
[22:12] <BaloneyGeek> because they decide the curriculum
[22:12] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk_, send them to me :)
[22:12] <Kinshuk_> lol
[22:12] <tanamania> Kinshuk_ very true, accepting FOSS in our daily works is what we need to do
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[22:12] <@lut4rp> I'm willing to guide anyone who wants to work on any project in any language
[22:13] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, help me learn python :D
[22:13] <richnusgeeks> Baloney, it's not about the syllabus but about the open technologies
[22:13] <tanamania> Kinshuk contributing to projects is ok but that is a restricted domain
[22:13] <@lut4rp> provided you know what to do. If you say "mujhe C C++ aur Java ati hai" I shall kill you.
[22:13] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, i am still stuck with the control statements
[22:13] <tanamania> Kinshuk limitied to developers
[22:13] <bilkulbekar> lut4rp help me learn python too ... :P
[22:13] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, I'm willing to do weekly meetups :)
[22:13] <Kinshuk> tanamania, i have been contributing for last 3 years without writing a single line of code
[22:13] <rishabarora> @lut4rp... u made a mistake.. :P tell me hw to catch hold of u...
[22:13] <rishabarora> ;)
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[22:14] <BaloneyGeek> richnusgeeks: how do you expect to teach Open Technologies if the syllabus says, HOw tO do mail merge in Word?
[22:14] <@lut4rp> rishabarora, catching hold of me is possibly the easiest thing in the world :)
[22:14] <tanamania> Kinshuk yeah, thats what we need to do as a community as a whole
[22:14] <richnusgeeks> see coding is just a small activity in the total chain so every step is pretty important
[22:14] <Kinshuk> tanamania, so the first question is: are you doing it ?
[22:14] <@lut4rp> richnusgeeks, everything will be learnt once someone starts.
[22:14] <rishabarora> of those who ARE willing to code... this will be a great help
[22:14] <@lut4rp> yes
[22:14] <tanamania> Kinshuk I have started working on it.
[22:14] <Kinshuk> wait
[22:14] <Kinshuk> i am confused
[22:14] <Kinshuk> what are we discussing /
[22:15] <Kinshuk> ?
[22:15] <rishabarora> lol
[22:15] <@lut4rp> code contributions
[22:15] <bilkulbekar> lol
[22:15] <Kinshuk> i see three threads here
[22:15] <tanamania> we are discussing what we can contribute to FOSS as a communtiy
[22:15] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, code contributions is common
[22:15] <richnusgeeks> Baloney, technology is just a way to do the things u have to think about the applications
[22:15] <Kinshuk> we need other forms of contributions too
[22:15] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, really?
[22:15] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, I see barely any code contribution :)
[22:15] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, look at any foss project
[22:15] <Kinshuk> code is robust, interface and documentation suck
[22:15] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, I'm talking about the world's most populous country :)
[22:15] <rishabarora> but u cnt ever have enuff coders can u?
[22:15] <rishabarora> hmmm
[22:16] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, i am taling in general
[22:16] <Kinshuk> *talking
[22:16] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, general, is pointless.
[22:16] <richnusgeeks> Kinshuk, mass doesn't mean quality
[22:16] <@lut4rp> Lets focus on our 1 billion people
[22:16] <Kinshuk> i am fine if indians dont contribute code, but contriibute other stuff
[22:16] <@lut4rp> OK, agreed.
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[22:16] <rishabarora> y nt both!
[22:16] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, i wasnt talking about quality
[22:16] <bilkulbekar> can we not discus abt those 1 million ppl..
[22:16] <bilkulbekar> lets discuss what we want to contribute
[22:16] <tanamania> rishabarora its not feasible for everyone to contribute code
[22:16] <Kinshuk> all i am saying is all we talk about, when we talk of contributins is code
[22:17] <richnusgeeks> Kinshuk, but we have first to show that a thing known as FOSS is somewhat magical
[22:17] <Kinshuk> but there are other important stuff too.. which no one else focusses on
[22:17] <Kinshuk> let me share my today's experience with you
[22:17] <tanamania> Government organisations is where we should start from
[22:17] <Kinshuk> i was at a small blog launch of the victims of the nithari case
[22:17] <Kinshuk> these people started a school for the poor children
[22:17] <@lut4rp> tanamania, forget any government.
[22:17] <richnusgeeks> We should start from schools, tas the base
[22:18] <Kinshuk> they right now have 100 students, 3 teachers, 1 classroom and 2 old computers
[22:18] <rishabhVerma> yup reaching out to governmnet is a bit diffcult in my opinion
[22:18] <Kinshuk> they are running ubuntu in bangla on those computers
[22:18] <richnusgeeks> So the Puppy Linux is there for those damn old machines
[22:18] <Kinshuk> but bangla package is not 100% complete
[22:18] <tanamania> lut4rp rishabverma reaching out is difficult but not impossible
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[22:18] <Kinshuk> erm
[22:18] <richnusgeeks> n we could arrange some other old hardware
[22:18] <graphicmist> Kinshuk: me listening
[22:18] <graphicmist> carry on
[22:18] <Kinshuk> no one is listenign to my stories :(
[22:18] <richnusgeeks> people cud donate their P1s
[22:18] <rishabarora> i see ur point..
[22:18] <Kinshuk> oh :D
[22:18] <@lut4rp> tanamania, we as OSScamp, can do nothing about that.
[22:19] <shanlalit> I am Kinshuk
[22:19] <Kinshuk> so i continue
[22:19] <BaloneyGeek> Um... someone can backport the inidan localization from fedora. fed's localization is somewhat complete
[22:19] <Kinshuk> i found thsoe students today, with their broken english, working well with bangla but blundering when interface is english
[22:19] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, Get in touch with Pradeepto or something.
[22:19] <tanamania> lut4rp why can't we do anything? We can suggest FOSS substitutes to the organisations and tell them the benefits
[22:19] <@lut4rp> err, someone*
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[22:19] <Kinshuk> and i want, now, bangla translators
[22:19] <Kinshuk> thats how we reach out
[22:19] <sanchitgulati> btw some cool goverment organisation uses open source like department of ministry
[22:20] <sanchitgulati> sorry department of enviroment ot something like this
[22:20] <Kinshuk> this is why non-code contribution is important as well
[22:20] <@lut4rp> tanamania, suggestions do not go down with people who have fundings of 40 billion dollars.
[22:20] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, can you try that ?
[22:20] <@lut4rp> tanamania, they want Real People ® with Real Experience ®
[22:20] <@lut4rp> tanamania, they don't want a bunch of unconference attendees :)
[22:20] <richnusgeeks> People Govt is stuffed with Billgates AIDS packages
[22:20] <sanchitgulati> *claps*
[22:20] <Kinshuk> sanchitgulati, tanamania lut4rp governments right now are a waste of time and resources
[22:20] <richnusgeeks> So let's think more grassroot
[22:20] <BaloneyGeek> Kinshuk: I could, given enough time, which I don't have
[22:21] <tanamania> lut4rp Have u faced any such disarray?
[22:21] <BaloneyGeek> It's pretty easy
[22:21] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, you can certainly inspire more bongs ?
[22:21] <BaloneyGeek> but time consuming
[22:21] <BaloneyGeek> yeah I guess so
[22:21] <@lut4rp> tanamania, at hordes of places.
[22:21] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, that could be useful
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[22:21] <tanamania> lut4rp we are talking of implementation of open standards in documents, etc
[22:21] <@lut4rp> tanamania, I was supposed to train the Ministry of Environmental Studies on Drupal. Dont ask me what happened.
[22:21] <sanchitgulati> kinshuk, how are we planning to get those non code contribution
[22:22] <@lut4rp> tanamania, that is even worse.
[22:22] <Kinshuk> sanchitgulati, i dont know.. the marketplace idea is something i could think of
[22:22] <Kinshuk> we need more ways to do it
[22:22] <@lut4rp> Can you imagine what happens to those 500000000000 Excel sheets and Word docs when they are opened in OO.o ?
[22:22] <@lut4rp> Will you fix each of them :)
[22:22] <Kinshuk> they get broke
[22:22] <@lut4rp> As I said, governments are not a joke. And we can do nothing about it :)
[22:22] <sanchitgulati> logistics
[22:22] <Kinshuk> that cant be helped unless xls is an open format
[22:23] <@lut4rp> Lets focus on what we can do.
[22:23] <tanamania> lut4rp Kinshuk thats where the community comes into play
[22:23] <richnusgeeks> I'm volunteer for any research, design and documentation work n coding too, but enough coding for me in industry during last 8 yrs.
[22:23] <Kinshuk> tanamania, i disagree
[22:23] <tanamania> lut4rp Kinshuk everyone can contribute his bit towards it
[22:23] <BaloneyGeek> Accodring to me, a few people stay away from OOo because of it's looks, too
[22:23] <shanlalit> People seriously leave Mr. Government, do what we can.
[22:23] <Kinshuk> shanlalit, ++
[22:23] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, face it, OpenOffice is a ruddy piece of shit
[22:24] <bilkulbekar> shanlalit, agree.
[22:24] <Kinshuk> so back to the initial discussion: is the foss directory and marketplace a good idea ?
[22:24] <@lut4rp> Its slow, borked, painful and sucks various levels.
[22:24] <richnusgeeks> If people don't like OO then AbiWord is also pretty powerful
[22:24] <bilkulbekar> lut4rp, let it be.. it wil improve..
[22:24] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, it is but do we have anything better ?
[22:24] <rishabarora> @lut4rp so does pretty much everything frm MS
[22:24] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: It's POS but it's powerful
[22:24] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, I run Office on Wine
[22:24] <tanamania> shanlalit Kinshuk lut4rp Ok, so what is the next best thing to do?
[22:24] <@lut4rp> works fine.
[22:24] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, fail
[22:24] <BaloneyGeek> Which is why Symphony is so good
[22:24] <@lut4rp> 5k is nothing for awesome software :)
[22:24] <bilkulbekar> Kinshuk, directory sounds a good idea... for marketplace, we require a lots and lots of work hours..
[22:24] <BaloneyGeek> but it's closed
[22:24] <richnusgeeks> If u can't make is good, make it look good - Bill Gates
[22:25] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, super fail
[22:25] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, sorry, I'd like to work. Not fight with software.
[22:25] <@lut4rp> at times, Abiword and Gnumeric do work
[22:25] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: Agree
[22:25] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, dude in the last 2 years, OO.o is still to wage a war with me
[22:25] <@lut4rp> but the kind of docs I deal with, Office is required.
[22:25] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, ur choice
[22:25] <@lut4rp> All sorts of weird shit, all sorts of weird versions
[22:26] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, obviously :) I choose to pay and run it on Wine.
[22:26] <BaloneyGeek> And text rendering on OOo is hideous
[22:26] <Kinshuk> bilkulbekar, why do we need so many work hours ?
[22:26] <richnusgeeks> Let's keep eerything simple n stupid
[22:26] <tanamania> Now if u dont like OO, then what work can we do at school level?
[22:26] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, again, because it is Jaba.
[22:26] <@lut4rp> Java*
[22:26] <rishabarora> why are we talking about OOo agn?
[22:26] <richnusgeeks> AbiWord
[22:26] <Kinshuk> skipp OOo and OOo alternatives pls
[22:26] <rishabarora> ty
[22:26] <Kinshuk> back to initiatives pls
[22:26] <@lut4rp> Right, I'll take a session on OO.o this OSScamp :) Done and done.
[22:27] <Kinshuk> i suggested 3.. you ppl find 2 useful ?
[22:27] <tanamania> because school is the place where all the children learn this M$ stuff
[22:27] <sanchitgulati> you want goverment to change, think NIC . those guy are horrible
[22:27] <sanchitgulati> ok, kinshuk ? so you want marketplace so people can contribute bangla to ubuntu ?
[22:27] <BaloneyGeek> Kinshuk: First 2
[22:27] <Kinshuk> sanchitgulati, yes and more
[22:27] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, everything other than the knowledgebase is good.
[22:27] <rishabhVerma> k
[22:27] <Kinshuk> shud these two be part of the osscamp wesbite ?
[22:27] <tanamania> l10n is an area specific exercise
[22:27] <richnusgeeks> See once the folks at school comes to know about FOSS then they have choice
[22:28] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, no.
[22:28] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, not really, because they will still be stuck with their curriculums
[22:28] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, then how ?
[22:28] <sanchitgulati> i point is, ubuntu has community .. a soerate community to contribute to ubuntu
[22:28] <sanchitgulati> ?
[22:28] <tanamania> richnusgeek no, they wont get marks if they use FOSS!!!
[22:28] <richnusgeeks> Kinshuk, not eerone
[22:28] <rishabarora> tanamania .. amen
[22:29] <richnusgeeks> Tanay, it's not about marks, it's about self development
[22:29] <Kinshuk> sanchitgulati, not creating a seperate community.. the idea is like yellow pages..
[22:29] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, 1 is FOSS Marketplace and 2 is FOSS directory?
[22:29] <BaloneyGeek> FOSS may get the work done, but it's not presentable
[22:29] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, ulta
[22:29] <@lut4rp> If you ask me, I'd do this as separate projects.
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[22:29] <tanamania> richnusgeek yeah but small kids of 5th and 6th standard wont care about self development, they will care about marks!
[22:29] <@lut4rp> and on github or something
[22:29] <@lut4rp> using whatever language/framework we use
[22:29] <richnusgeeks> Baloney, I earned my bread in industry for last 4-5 years through FOSS only
[22:30] <thecodecracker> tanamania agree !!!
[22:30] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, ok.. we can work on how to go about it
[22:30] <@lut4rp> totally
[22:30] <thecodecracker> and also they cannot run visual basic in linux when it comes to syllabus of informatics practices subjects of CBSE board :P
[22:30] <tanamania> richnusgeek same goes true with C and C++ students who still know that that dreaded blue screen of TC is what C/C++ is!
[22:30] <Kinshuk> do 5th, 6th std people have computers in their course ? :/
[22:30] <BaloneyGeek> richnusgeeks:Lemme guess: You have to work you ass off on the presentability
[22:30] <tanamania> Kinshuk yeah man!!!
[22:31] <@lut4rp> LOL TURBO C
[22:31] <BaloneyGeek> I was talking to my teacher about turbo C
[22:31] <tanamania> Kinshuk they study M$ Word, M$ Excel, as seperate chapters
[22:31] <Kinshuk> tanamania, i didnt know
[22:31] <bilkulbekar> Kinshuk, yes, even i had Turbo C in my 6th
[22:31] <rishabarora> ive lost marks for writing using namespace std; ... :P
[22:31] <BaloneyGeek> and why they can't use something more recent
[22:31] <@lut4rp> tanamania, stop calling MS as M$ :)
[22:31] <@lut4rp> tanamania, MS hatred isn't getting us anywhere.
[22:31] <richnusgeeks> Baloney, if I can work in company like NVIDIA then u can guess, only fat managers need the presentability
[22:31] <@lut4rp> richnusgeeks, that's it? I was *failed* :)
[22:32] <tanamania> lut4rp actually it is, it is leading us to software nirvana
[22:32] <Kinshuk> tanamania, not at all
[22:32] <@lut4rp> tanamania, MS has written good software.
[22:32] <BaloneyGeek> It turns out, the C++ taught in school is standards complaint to the very first C++ standards
[22:32] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, i doubt that.. but still i am not an MS hater
[22:32] <tanamania> lut4rp yeah, and good EULAs too!!
[22:32] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, and to think of it, that standard was changed 15 years ago :)
[22:32] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, Windows 7
[22:32] <BaloneyGeek> If they teach GCC or even VC++, the code won't be backware compatible with TC++
[22:32] <@lut4rp> MS Office :)
[22:33] <BaloneyGeek> god knows why they want TC++ compatibility\
[22:33] <richnusgeeks> TC for DOS mode
[22:33] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, right, TC is 16 bit software :)
[22:33] <rishabarora> whoops... i forgot i have an exam.. adios ppl.. ill be more active abe...
[22:33] <rishabarora> *abse
[22:33] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, win7 is not without its troubles.. but its decent no doubt.. Office is popular but i dont agree
[22:33] <Kinshuk> rishabarora, all the best
[22:33] <rishabarora> thnku :P
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[22:33] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, Windows 7 is as secure, if not more, than Linux.
[22:33] <Kinshuk> ok
[22:33] <Kinshuk> lets move on
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[22:34] <@lut4rp> k.
[22:34] <Kinshuk> other than those two initiatives
[22:34] <Kinshuk> what else are the suggestions ?
[22:34] <richnusgeeks> Kinshuk, I saw Win7 code in NVIDIA under non disclosure n it was one of the most ugliest kind of
[22:34] <bilkulbekar> lut4rp, windows 7 is not secure.. ther are lotsa exploits
[22:34] <@lut4rp> bilkulbekar, really :)
[22:34] <tanamania> the point is not security and efficiency, the point is freedom!
[22:34] <richnusgeeks> MS publishe done of the best book on SE Code Complete but ?
[22:34] <@lut4rp> bilkulbekar, go on, I'd like to know some. :)
[22:34] <sanchitgulati> this is windows Vs Linux IRC ??? both OS are awesome . can we come back
[22:35] <Kinshuk> erm
[22:35] <Kinshuk> lets get back to discussion ?
[22:35] <@lut4rp> OK WAIT.
[22:35] <BaloneyGeek> richnusgeeks: You really shouldn't be talking about it if it was under an NDA
[22:35] <@lut4rp> EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO RANT ON ANYTHING WINDOWS/LINUX/FOO BAR, move to #hackers-india on irc.oftc.net
[22:35] <richnusgeeks> Baloney, I'm just talking about their code quality
[22:36] <Kinshuk> wht are other suggested initiatives ?
[22:36] <@lut4rp> And then ping me there :)
[22:36] <tanamania> lut4rp u were a part of it! :P
[22:36] <tanamania> Kinshuk talking to schools and school organisations
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[22:36] <richnusgeeks> Kinshuk, I volanteer for any research, design n documentation n sometimes coding too
[22:37] <sanchitgulati> initiatives, code jam sessions at osscamp !
[22:37] <tanamania> Catch them young is what we should believe
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[22:37] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, sanchitgulati ++
[22:37] <sanchitgulati> contact who for shool?
[22:37] <richnusgeeks> That is why school is pretty important
[22:37] <Kinshuk> tanamania, how do we go about it ?
[22:37] <tanamania> Catch them young is what we should believe in*
[22:37] <@lut4rp> tanamania, I am on #hackers-india, and so are 15 or so other contributors from tons of FOSS projects.
[22:37] <richnusgeeks> LIke we caught tanay : ))
[22:37] <Kinshuk> tanamania, you are talking like ms now :P
[22:38] <tanamania> Kinshuk the first step is to study the curriculum of the schools
[22:38] <@lut4rp> tanamania, forget school.s
[22:38] <tanamania> Kinshuk then we need to make a curriculum of our own, to substitute that entirely
[22:38] <graphicmist> abe kya chal rha hai yahan...
[22:38] <@lut4rp> listen, forget ANYTHING that involves governments.
[22:38] <shanlalit> :)
[22:38] <Kinshuk> tanamania, you will need lobbies
[22:38] <tanamania> lut4rp we cant forget everything!!
[22:38] <@lut4rp> ANY thing.
[22:38] <graphicmist> godaddy vps sucks
[22:39] <@lut4rp> graphicmist, lol godaddy
[22:39] <shanlalit> :)
[22:39] <graphicmist> lut4rp: majboori bhai
[22:39] <BaloneyGeek> what's with godaddy?
[22:39] <tanamania> wow!! we are discussing godaddy here!!
[22:39] <@lut4rp> tanamania, you're still going on about all government related issues :) As I said, we as a community can do nothing about it.
[22:39] <bilkulbekar> tanamania, we will have to forget everything .. i heard lut4rp is god.. :D
[22:39] <richnusgeeks> Kinshuk, tanay, it's not about school curriculum, it's about showing those the FOSS n it's potential
[22:39] <graphicmist> our college site is hosted on  godaddy
[22:40] <sanchitgulati> school workshops !!!
[22:40] <graphicmist> bilkulbekar: lut4rp is good god..lol
[22:40] <sanchitgulati> no change in syllabus.
[22:40] <@lut4rp> bilkulbekar, I've spent so much time battling with FOSS in general, that I've realized what is possible and what is not :)
[22:40] <sanchitgulati> simple monthly state level workshops.
[22:40] <richnusgeeks> A monthy workshop at schools
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[22:40] <sanchitgulati> one school take charge, organize a event
[22:40] <sanchitgulati> invite other shools.
[22:40] <Kinshuk> workshops in school is a good idea
[22:40] <tanamania> lut4rp we cant sit back and see the young generation learning that "When you switch on a computer, you get a stsrt button at the bottom left corner"
[22:40] <@lut4rp> Any OS X/iPhone programmer here who'd like to work on a FOSS Mac project?
[22:41] <Kinshuk> interschool foss competitions is also a good idea
[22:41] <tanamania> start*
[22:41] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, oh yes, competitions are good.
[22:41] <tanamania> lut4rp Mac is evil!
[22:41] <richnusgeeks> MacOS is just XNU Unix at heart
[22:41] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: Prefer porting Quicksilver to Linux
[22:41] <@lut4rp> tanamania, no, you teach them that there are alternatives.
[22:41] <@lut4rp> tanamania, lol I use a Mac :)
[22:41] <BaloneyGeek> uh, GTK to be exact
[22:41] <@lut4rp> nothing evil about it :)
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[22:41] <tanamania> lut4rp thats what i mean when i say a substitue course curriculum
[22:42] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, I've tried working on the QS source. Geez, its rocket science.
[22:42] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: It's Objective-C
[22:42] <tanamania> NIIT has this NIIT@school programme in which they teach all M$ thing in schools
[22:42] <richnusgeeks> MacOS = XNU code + Embeded C++ + Wrappers
[22:42] <BaloneyGeek> No way to port it to Linux other than re-write in C++
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[22:42] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, work on GNOME Do?
[22:43] <@lut4rp> Do is inspired from QS
[22:43] <tanamania> we can talk to them and take the initial steps towards FOSS implementation at the grassroot level
[22:43] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, I have a FOSS Mac project I'm working on.
[22:43] <Kinshuk> :((
[22:43] <BaloneyGeek> Yeah, but it's a bit in the face
[22:43] <Kinshuk> off-topic se laut aao bhaiya
[22:43] <@lut4rp> And I'm looking for people to work with me on it.
[22:43] <BaloneyGeek> lu4rp: Buy me a Mac and I'm game
[22:43] <BaloneyGeek> ;-)
[22:43] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, :p
[22:43] <Kinshuk> lol
[22:43] <shanlalit> Take care everyone.
[22:44] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, install a hackintosh, who cares about Apple software :)
[22:44] <tanamania> Our target should be not to show FOSS as an alternate to people but to make Windows an alternate!
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[22:44] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: No KEXT for my ATI Mobility Radeon
[22:44] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, aww
[22:44] <richnusgeeks> Sanchit, Kinshuk, a foss session at schools monthly
[22:44] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, very sad.
[22:44] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, chup ho ja mac-ie
[22:44] <tanamania> Btw India 138/6 (18.0 ov, Harbhajan Singh 8*, MS Dhoni 29*)
[22:44] <Anshu> Sanchit and Kinshuk .. ramjas school rlp is open to have foss sessions weekly..
[22:45] <Kinshuk> Anshu, will work on that
[22:45] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, I find GNOME Do needs love. Work on it :)
[22:45] <BaloneyGeek> tanamania: THANK YOU. I LOVE YOU
[22:45] <@lut4rp> and now, I have to go for dinner. Later :)
[22:45] <Kinshuk> so community initiatives we talked about
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[22:45] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, nite
[22:45] <@lut4rp> I might be back later ;P
[22:45] <Kinshuk> ok
[22:45] <Kinshuk> shall we move on ?
[22:45] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: You better be
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[22:45] <tanamania> lut4rp enjoy!
[22:45] <Anshu> yep!
[22:45]  * Kinshuk is having dinner side by side >:)
[22:45] <@lut4rp> OK wait
[22:45] <@lut4rp> before I leave
[22:46] <richnusgeeks> So directory, workplace
[22:46] <@lut4rp> I'll repeat again
[22:46] <richnusgeeks> n next?
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[22:46] <tanamania> lut4rp go on
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[22:46] <@lut4rp> ANYONE WANTING TO TALK ANYTHING APART FROM OSSCAMP, you're welcome to jump in #hackers-india on irc.oftc.net
[22:46] <Kinshuk> lut4rp, dont promote ur channel :P
[22:46] <tanamania> lut4rp #fail
[22:47] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, I'm not promoting, I'm hoping someone useful will come along :)
[22:47] <Kinshuk> lol, i know, i was j/k
[22:47] <tanamania> Ok, we move on..
[22:47] <@lut4rp> Kinshuk, also #hackers-india is the best concentration of FOSS contributors you can get from India.
[22:47] <Kinshuk> aaj bade dino baad #osscamp me abadi hai :D
[22:47] <@lut4rp> :)
[22:47] <shashwat> hey
[22:47] <Kinshuk> :)
[22:47] <BaloneyGeek> Shashwat: When did you pop in? Welcome
[22:47] <Kinshuk> ok
[22:47] <@lut4rp> KTHXBAI
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[22:47] <Kinshuk> so we decided on directory, marketplace, school workshops, and competitions
[22:48] <Kinshuk> anything else ?
[22:48] <tanamania> Just for the records, is anyone on WIndows here? :P
[22:48] <BaloneyGeek> Kinshuk: Dinner break for me
[22:48] <shashwat> nopes :P
[22:48] <BaloneyGeek> tanamania: ME!
[22:48] <thecodecracker> m on windows
[22:48] <thecodecracker> :P
[22:48] <BaloneyGeek> WINDOWS 7
[22:48] <thecodecracker> Windows XP ! :P
[22:48] <richnusgeeks> Win in emulated mode
[22:48] <Kinshuk> tanamania, me on win7 + xchat
[22:48] <graphicmist> lut4rp: oftc.net
[22:48] <graphicmist> when??
[22:48] <richnusgeeks> like madcaploon
[22:48] <tanamania> So many!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:48] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, eh?
[22:49] <BaloneyGeek> Where's Madcap BTW?
[22:49] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, on a family vacation to someplace near pantnagar
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[22:49] <richnusgeeks> I think he is out of the city
[22:49] <tanamania> Kinshuk madcap here at pantnagar???? where???
[22:49] <richnusgeeks> nainital
[22:49] <BaloneyGeek> Last I heard, he was back in to Delhi
[22:49] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, ah, then i dont know.. shud i call him here ??
[22:50] <BaloneyGeek> Kisnhuk: Please
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[22:50] <richnusgeeks> he is win7 gut ; ))
[22:50] <richnusgeeks> guy
[22:50] <tanamania> richnusgeek lolz!!!
[22:50] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, he was joking
[22:50] <Kinshuk> he cant live w/o kde
[22:50] <richnusgeeks> me too : ))
[22:50] <tanamania> Kinshuk he uses KDE on Windows7 ;)
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[22:51] <BaloneyGeek> lolz. He's a Mandriva fanatic
[22:51] <BaloneyGeek> He actually trashes everything else
[22:51] <BaloneyGeek> in the reviews he gives
[22:51] <richnusgeeks> Kinshuk, what about an uniform interface for osscamp n to events too
[22:51] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, madcap will take another 2 hours to reach his home in delhi
[22:51] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, explain
[22:51] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, esp Fedora :D
[22:51] <BaloneyGeek> Kinshuk: That's after 12. Don't think he can make it here
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[22:52] <richnusgeeks> every OSScamp could atleast a set of templated events
[22:52] <shashwat> hmm
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[22:52] <BaloneyGeek> Um, okay I'm taking a 15 minute break
[22:52] <BaloneyGeek> dinner
[22:52] <Kinshuk> i still dont get you
[22:52] <tanamania> richnusgeek the interface is uniform i suppose
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[22:53] <richnusgeeks> Are we having some uniform kind of events at osscamps
[22:53] <Kinshuk> not exactly, though we have some standard types of presentations
[22:53] <tanamania> richnusgeek No, they vary from camp to camp
[22:53] <richnusgeeks> osscamp chd n pantnagar interfaces were different
[22:53] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, interfaces ? website interfaces ??
[22:54] <richnusgeeks> So atleast some core events at every cap
[22:54] <richnusgeeks> other are additional
[22:54] <tanamania> richnusgeek Can u elaborate the dofference?
[22:54] <tanamania> difference*
[22:54] <graphicmist> I am out of here.. i have a exam tommo.. will read the logs
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[22:55] <tanamania> Kinshuk i have some points to contribute about the site
[22:55] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, i am really sorry, but i am honestly not able to understand
[22:55] <richnusgeeks> Like is coding event every time part of the camp? if not why not to resolute make it everytime
[22:55] <Kinshuk> tanamania, list it on that facebook discussion
[22:55] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, that depends on the camp organisers plus target audience
[22:55] <Kinshuk> eg: we wanted to do a codejam at pantnagar, but that was not feasible with the participation we had
[22:55] <richnusgeeks> I ate Facebook, I'm extremely lazy guy : ((
[22:56] <Kinshuk> resolutions will not be useful
[22:56] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, mail it to me, i'll put it on ur behalf there.. later we will move to something like bugzilla or similar
[22:56] <richnusgeeks> At least try to have some fixed set of event at camps
[22:56] <richnusgeeks> otherwise it all will mangle up
[22:56] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, we can definitely try
[22:57] <Kinshuk> thats a good suggestion
[22:57] <sanchitgulati> :)
[22:57] <richnusgeeks> like tweetup is also another one
[22:57] <Kinshuk> like a hackathon, a l10n sprint, etc.. and we can changes projects
[22:57] <sanchitgulati> :)
[22:57] <Kinshuk> tweetup is a social media thingy, not foss
[22:57] <richnusgeeks> We have to manage our time accordingly n it's gonna help in long term
[22:57] <richnusgeeks> let's make FOSS more social
[22:58] <Kinshuk> sure thing
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[22:58] <Kinshuk> do we have any more suggestions ?
[22:58] <richnusgeeks> Atleast those would provide a camper what to expect in real time?
[22:59] <Kinshuk> ok
[22:59] <Kinshuk> so we have 5 community initiative suggestions
[22:59] <richnusgeeks> So I'll do some research on this unification part n put to u kinshuk
[23:00] <richnusgeeks> n tany n other too
[23:00] <Kinshuk> directory, marketplace, workshops, competitions, fixed events
[23:00] <Kinshuk> any more ?
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[23:00] <sparsh> back guyzzz
[23:00] <Kinshuk> sparsh, wb
[23:00] <richnusgeeks> An oSScamp mag
[23:01] <sanchitgulati> !
[23:01] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, the plan was that the osscamp blog will be that mag
[23:01] <Kinshuk> but we dont get regular contributions
[23:01] <richnusgeeks> Paper spreads more swiftly than digital stuff
[23:01] <Kinshuk> as there is not much incentive to write other than the spirit of contribution
[23:01] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, :|
[23:01] <richnusgeeks> The basic nature of universe is analog
[23:01] <sparsh> :P
[23:02] <sanchitgulati> writing a blog on some website is different from writing a article on some mag
[23:02] <sparsh> yes
[23:02] <sanchitgulati> latter is more cooler
[23:02] <Kinshuk> wht is the difference between mag and blog ?
[23:02] <Kinshuk> geekzine is a good initiative
[23:02] <Kinshuk> also look at muktware
[23:02] <sparsh> any major topics covered in my absence ?
[23:03] <Kinshuk> sparsh, yes.. do read the logs later
[23:03] <richnusgeeks> Imagine u go back with an osscamp mag (few papers) n other people see that n it happens in real life
[23:03] <sanchitgulati> yes, why sparsh is an idiots? got many points there.. read the log
[23:03] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, print logistics are an overhead
[23:03] <sparsh> srry :(
[23:03] <richnusgeeks> Only print 5-10 black n white pages n photocopy
[23:04] <richnusgeeks> n I'm ready to volunteer for that
[23:04] <sparsh> then we cant call it a mag
[23:04] <sanchitgulati> ok, think of something digital but diffrent from blog.
[23:04] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, geekszine is there, why do u want another foss mag ?
[23:04] <richnusgeeks> not a mag but zine
[23:04] <sparsh> ohk
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[23:05] <richnusgeeks> my point is that in every osscamp we should distribute a paper thing also
[23:05] <Kinshuk> ok
[23:05] <Kinshuk> that is a good idea
[23:05] <richnusgeeks> We are only thinking about who go onsite but what about other clueless
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[23:06] <richnusgeeks> who wanna start but whhere to?
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[23:06] <Kinshuk> hmmm
[23:07] <Kinshuk> thecodecracker, howdy? any word on osscamp solan ?
[23:07] <tanamania> OSScamp magazine is a good idea but wont have much of a impact unless it is printed like a magazine
[23:07] <BaloneyGeek> guys, back
[23:07] <sanchitgulati> OSScamp magazine is a good idea but wont have much of a impact unless it is printed like a magazine
[23:07] <thecodecracker> m fine kinshuk, just busy preping for my exam next month
[23:08] <thecodecracker> so kinda busy :)
[23:08] <BaloneyGeek> India lost the game
[23:08] <richnusgeeks> tany, let's start from 5-10 pages n add more
[23:08] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, my suggestion
[23:08] <Kinshuk> lets build on the start that geekszine is
[23:08] <Kinshuk> make it an open community project :)
[23:08] <sparsh> cool !
[23:08] <tanamania> Photostats wont work. We can better share the pdf on the network
[23:08] <Kinshuk> let people contribute to geekszine and we can share it every camp
[23:08] <BaloneyGeek> Something like a PDF, made with Scribus?
[23:08] <richnusgeeks> GeeksZine is already in public domain
[23:08] <Kinshuk> tanamania, waise ppl really dnt read PDFs
[23:09] <tanamania> Kinshuk yahan degree PDFs padh padh ke chal rahai hai!!!
[23:09] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, i know.. all i am saying is lets not rework it with another mag
[23:09] <Kinshuk> tanamania, there is a world outside pantnagar too :)
[23:09] <sanchitgulati> <tanamania> Kinshuk yahan degree PDFs padh padh ke chal rahai hai!!! SAME HERE
[23:09] <sanchitgulati> :P
[23:10] <BaloneyGeek> If you guys are going to make a print magazine, where's the funding?
[23:10] <Kinshuk> sanchitgulati, there is a world outside pantnagar and chandigarg :D
[23:10] <BaloneyGeek> Content will come easy
[23:10] <tanamania> Kinshuk yeah, and people read pdfs in that world, thats why we have something called a pdf!! sanchitgulati +1
[23:10] <BaloneyGeek> but will people buy?
[23:10] <richnusgeeks> I'm waiting for other people to contribute in GeeksZine, for unaware plz go to richnusgeeks.com
[23:10] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek buy??
[23:10] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, who's selling ?
[23:10] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek we will distribute it for free!!
[23:10] <BaloneyGeek> print magazine, and not buy?
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[23:11] <Kinshuk> BaloneyGeek, we are just trying to discuss the idea
[23:11] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek thats why the entire discussion of photostats or pdfs!
[23:11] <Kinshuk> richnusgeeks, 5-10 pages and photocopy wont work
[23:11] <Kinshuk> shite, its past 11
[23:12] <rudi009> people who care....will have no problem reading pdfs
[23:12] <BaloneyGeek> Why not merge GeeksZine, Howzzit and a OSSCamp thing and make a good PDF?
[23:12] <Kinshuk> folks, i was due in another call .. since 11
[23:12] <Kinshuk> need to run away
[23:12] <richnusgeeks> Kinshuk, those 5-10 pages were written by me but wen others are joining then those wud be more
[23:12] <tanamania> I totally agree with richnusgeek
[23:12] <Kinshuk> who is logging the whole conversation ?
[23:12] <Ankur> pdf not a problem at all
[23:12] <Kinshuk> folks, i need to go
[23:13] <Kinshuk> who is logging the whole conversation ?
[23:13] <richnusgeeks> Just start a trend n subsequently refine upon
[23:13] <Kinshuk> who will post it somewhere public ?
[23:13] <tanamania> I will do it..
[23:13] <richnusgeeks> I'm already doing it
[23:13] <tanamania> On the OSscampblog
[23:13] <Kinshuk> tanamania, goody good.. i am off then
[23:14] <Kinshuk> will read the logs later
[23:14] <Kinshuk> nite folks
[23:14] <richnusgeeks> K1
[23:14] <BaloneyGeek> Kinshuk: Nite!
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[23:14] <richnusgeeks> it's a day for geekz ; )) bye tc kinshuk
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[23:15] <tanamania> So how many agree with me that schools are the first place where we need to work if we need to spread FOSS?
[23:16] <BaloneyGeek> Uh, why is everyone leaving?
[23:16] <BaloneyGeek> Tanamania: Me
[23:16] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek Law of Two Feet!
[23:16] <richnusgeeks> Me
[23:17] <thecodecracker> a lil tough , i guess
[23:17] <thecodecracker> :)
[23:17] <tanamania> I don't think that running away from problems that government officials and other bodies pose will work
[23:17] <richnusgeeks> As OSHO says, let's first change this social programming
[23:18] <thecodecracker> ummmm need to educate the 'teachers' first, change the ciriculum, then moving to students....
[23:18] <richnusgeeks> It's not about the syllabus but showing them the other true ways
[23:19] <BaloneyGeek> Look, we ourselves cannot change all of India's schools
[23:19] <BaloneyGeek> The way to go about it is getting th eteachers interested
[23:20] <BaloneyGeek> If they start taking an interest, they'll probablyt talk about it in class
[23:20] <richnusgeeks> Baloney, we can't change but show them that a magic lamp known as FOSS exists
[23:20] <BaloneyGeek> and that way the students may get hooked
[23:20] <richnusgeeks> that would help them to make choice in the future or maybe present
[23:20] <BaloneyGeek> I would say the first step would be a kind of workshop for Teachers
[23:21] <richnusgeeks> Workshop for both
[23:21] <BaloneyGeek> no, first teachers
[23:21] <richnusgeeks> Ok!
[23:21] <richnusgeeks> whatever
[23:21] <BaloneyGeek> and then in the workshop for students, the teachers can participate
[23:22] <BaloneyGeek> i think the students will feel more comfortable if teachers introduce them to something rather than complete strangers
[23:23] <richnusgeeks> If you show that with FOSS one can do better in the real world, most of the folkz will cling to it
[23:23] <BaloneyGeek> Esp. in the schools of nowadays where teachers have significant Fan Following
[23:23] <richnusgeeks> n it's a real fcat
[23:23] <BaloneyGeek> richnusgeeks: It doesn't work that way, in school
[23:24] <BaloneyGeek> most people are not interested in school
[23:24] <BaloneyGeek> they are interested in the "hanging out during the break" part
[23:24] <tanamania> talking about what can be done, we can have a look at this blog post - http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/how-i-was-able-to-convince-to-move-ncert-for
[23:24] <richnusgeeks> That is why they should care for their life n career
[23:24] <BaloneyGeek> All they care about is how their work gets done
[23:25] <BaloneyGeek> If word does it, why think about anything else
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[23:25] <tanamania> Convincing people to use FOSS is difficult, but not impossible..
[23:25] <richnusgeeks> I cracked MS IDC stuff through my FOSS skills only
[23:26] <richnusgeeks> n I turned those down later for NVIDIA
[23:26] <richnusgeeks> just an example
[23:26] <thecodecracker> but see
[23:26] <richnusgeeks> With FOSS skills u can crack anythin g
[23:26] <thecodecracker> the poeple out there
[23:26] <tanamania> OSScamps are at present focused on geeks
[23:26] <tanamania> We need to change that, we need to spread it to non-geeks too!
[23:27] <richnusgeeks> OSScamp for non geeks to make those geeks
[23:27] <tanamania> richnusgeek +1
[23:27] <BaloneyGeek> tanamania: Non-geeks and most Geeks do not know the OSS in OSSCamp
[23:27] <richnusgeeks> that is why we need to distribute a zine with cool tricks
[23:28] <richnusgeeks> everyone has to start from some point
[23:28] <richnusgeeks> to why not to make that easier
[23:28] <BaloneyGeek> Look, if you guys are go for a PDF Zine, I can do quite a lot of legwork
[23:29] <richnusgeeks> I spent my first 3 years in industry doing WinNT drivers, VC++, MFC
[23:29] <BaloneyGeek> You guys know Shayon Pal, right?
[23:29] <richnusgeeks> n i'm thankful to ms to frustrate me at extreme
[23:29] <richnusgeeks> Shayon, not sure but he worked on LFY site?
[23:30] <BaloneyGeek> He used to work at LFY
[23:30] <tanamania> Ok ok.. so what exactly are we discussing?
[23:30] <BaloneyGeek> He's now in Bengaluru
[23:30] <richnusgeeks> K! thanks for this info
[23:30] <BaloneyGeek> I was going to something
[23:30] <BaloneyGeek> He has this site called Howzzit
[23:30] <BaloneyGeek> which basically reviews everything
[23:30] <richnusgeeks> Ok!
[23:30] <tanamania> We need to discuss how OSScamp community can contribute towards spreading FOSS awareness
[23:30] <BaloneyGeek> and it's kinda Linux-proomoting too
[23:31] <BaloneyGeek> So we have your GeeksZine
[23:31] <BaloneyGeek> We have Howzzit
[23:31] <BaloneyGeek> and OSSCamp wants a zine of some sort
[23:31] <BaloneyGeek> we can merge the 3 and make a good PDF
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[23:31] <richnusgeeks> It would help
[23:31] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek +1
[23:31] <richnusgeeks> a lot
[23:31] <BaloneyGeek> or even a Web based Zine, if you want
[23:31] <richnusgeeks> So we have everthing
[23:32] <BaloneyGeek> ATM Shayon is not able to devote much time to Howzzit, due to his professional engagements
[23:32] <BaloneyGeek> He'd readily agree to this
[23:32] <tanamania> So we can work on the next issue starting today
[23:32] <tanamania> richnusgeek you can take up the editor's role
[23:33] <BaloneyGeek> tanamania: in the next 27 minutes? you got to be kidding
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[23:33] <tanamania> richnusgeek and decide upon a deadline
[23:33] <richnusgeeks> I'm ready for it so we can synchronize
[23:33] <BaloneyGeek> Wait wait wait
[23:33] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek u caught me!! lolz!! :)
[23:33] <BaloneyGeek> What do we do?
[23:33] <BaloneyGeek> is it a website, or a PDF, or something else?
[23:34] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek It is a pdf for this issue, right richnusgeek?
[23:34] <richnusgeeks> Ya!
[23:34] <richnusgeeks> keep it simple n stupid ; ))
[23:34] <BaloneyGeek> wait, lemme contact shayon
[23:34] <tanamania> So where do we all contribute, i think Google Docs is the best place?
[23:35] <tanamania> We can have a shared doc where we all contribute with the articles, how does that sound BaloneyGeek richnusgeek?
[23:36] <richnusgeeks> One thing, are we clear that before every OSScamp we'll merge the relevant stuff to create a black n white zine
[23:36] <hildebrandus> joining in late... what sort of articles may i ask
[23:36] <BaloneyGeek> Wait
[23:36] <BaloneyGeek> Take it easy
[23:36] <BaloneyGeek> We want a PDF. That's confirmed?
[23:36] <richnusgeeks> Ya! KISS
[23:37] <tanamania> richnusgeek i dont think the target should be one mag before every camp
[23:37] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek yes!!
[23:37] <richnusgeeks> better for printing the master copy
[23:37] <BaloneyGeek> Frequency? Bi-monthly?
[23:37] <hildebrandus> bimonthly is too much to expect.
[23:37] <richnusgeeks> Let's start with monthly
[23:37] <tanamania> richnusgeek BaloneyGeek let us do one issue to start with
[23:37] <BaloneyGeek> I mean one every 2 months?
[23:37] <BaloneyGeek> I got it wrong
[23:37] <tanamania> richnusgeek BaloneyGeek we will see how much time it takes
[23:37] <BaloneyGeek> Okay
[23:38] <tanamania> richnusgeek BaloneyGeek depending on that, we will decide on the frequency
[23:38] <BaloneyGeek> Content submission:
[23:38] <richnusgeeks> See I'm gonna publish GeeksZine per month
[23:38] <tanamania> richnusgeek BaloneyGeek abhi lets keep it to one edition
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[23:38] <BaloneyGeek> Contributors can send any docs to Editors
[23:39] <BaloneyGeek> We'll put up the docs on Google Docs
[23:39] <BaloneyGeek> We'll push in the selected ones to a specific folder
[23:39] <BaloneyGeek> and from there construct the master document
[23:39] <tanamania> We will maintain one doc on Google Docs that will have all the articles one after the other
[23:39] <richnusgeeks> ok for who don't know, GeeksZine an online monthly foss zine for geekz n non geeks, www.richnusgeeks.com for the current issue
[23:39] <gajendrank> why don't you go for a wiki instead of a google doc?
[23:40] <tanamania> Once we have enough articles, we will design the mag
[23:40] <BaloneyGeek> tanamania: Monolithic stuff will always be kind of unmanageable
[23:40] <richnusgeeks> and we'll distribute a paper zine compiled from multiple sources in every osscamp
[23:40] <BaloneyGeek> richnusgeeks +1
[23:40] <gajendrank> it seems odd to me that a foss group wants to use a non-foss google docs.
[23:40] <tanamania> richnusgeek What do u suggest for content submission?
[23:41] <BaloneyGeek> And uh, what are we gonna use for the final design? Scribus?
[23:41] <richnusgeeks> let's create some wiki, KISS
[23:41] <tanamania> gajendrak We dont have any wiki running at present.
[23:41] <BaloneyGeek> Scribus can create stunning PDFs with very little work
[23:41] <richnusgeeks> or create a repository, Git, Bzr, Hg ...
[23:41] <BaloneyGeek> Yeah, for this a Git would be very good
[23:42] <gajendrank> it shouldn't be difficult to do.
[23:42] <BaloneyGeek> we can push content in to a master repo
[23:42] <richnusgeeks> anything
[23:42] <BaloneyGeek> and then the designer can pull it in and make a PDF from that
[23:42] <tanamania> I am ready for anything that you decide upon.
[23:42] <tanamania> Whoz the designer?
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[23:42] <BaloneyGeek> If someone can do the artwork, I can do the layout in Scribus
[23:43] <@lut4rp> k
[23:43] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek We dnt need artwork, lets keep it simple
[23:43] <richnusgeeks> I'm from kernel n system background so not very fond of nity gritty things
[23:44] <richnusgeeks> Current issue of GeeksZine is pretty simple stuff
[23:44] <BaloneyGeek> richnusgeeks: It's ugly
[23:44] <BaloneyGeek> Don't mind
[23:44] <richnusgeeks> Ya! it is but one has to start
[23:45] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek But artwork would mean that we need some good designers
[23:45] <richnusgeeks> n I'm a very lazy guy
[23:45] <BaloneyGeek> tanamania: Not necessarily
[23:45] <BaloneyGeek> As richnusgeeks says, KISS
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[23:45] <Harinderpal> hi
[23:46] <richnusgeeks> I submit plain articles in LFY n others n they put makeip on those ?
[23:46] <richnusgeeks> ; ))
[23:46] <richnusgeeks> makeip
[23:46] <richnusgeeks> makeup
[23:46] <BaloneyGeek> http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[23:46] <tanamania> Ok, we can have a artwork as headers and footers
[23:46] <BaloneyGeek> that's a mag made with scrbus
[23:46] <richnusgeeks> See the no. of contributors for fullcircle
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[23:47] <richnusgeeks> n currently count me, baloney n tany
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[23:47] <BaloneyGeek> we don't need many contributors for a backend team
[23:48] <BaloneyGeek> and besides, who said we want to make it better than fullcircle?
[23:48] <BaloneyGeek> FullCircle is a proof of concept
[23:48] <richnusgeeks> Ok! when is the next osscamp and when to start this zine work?
[23:48] <tanamania> Ok, we shall do something, lets define different sections of the mag and start collecting articles
[23:48] <BaloneyGeek> we  can start tomorrow
[23:48] <tanamania> 12 mins to go!!
[23:49] <BaloneyGeek> if we can get the content collection infrastructure done in the next few hours
[23:49] <Harinderpal> Hey i would alsi like to contribute
[23:49] <BaloneyGeek> and we need to ask Shayon for the Howzzit merging part
[23:49] <BaloneyGeek> he may be able to provide some publicity
[23:50] <richnusgeeks> Sure most welcome dude, mail me some stuff on geekszine@gmail.com or yahoo.in
[23:50] <BaloneyGeek> wait a minue
[23:50] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek "content collection infrastructure" will you work on that?
[23:50] <BaloneyGeek> does OSSCamp have a google apps account?
[23:50] <richnusgeeks> Would u like to merge current GeeksZine for a proof of concept?
[23:50] <BaloneyGeek> tanamania: Sure thing
[23:50] <BaloneyGeek> But I need to know how we want to do it
[23:51] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek It's ur word!
[23:51] <BaloneyGeek> Can you guys work with Git?
[23:51] <richnusgeeks> sure
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[23:51] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek sure
[23:51] <richnusgeeks> just send the link for the master repositort
[23:52] <BaloneyGeek> Okay, shall have a loot at Github
[23:52] <richnusgeeks> n i'll clone that
[23:52] <BaloneyGeek> The problem is, I don't know much git ewxcept Git pull
[23:52] <richnusgeeks> it's like bzr
[23:52] <@lut4rp> sup
[23:52] <richnusgeeks> go to github.com
[23:52] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek We need to implement only what is necessary
[23:52] <@lut4rp> wat, git is like bzr? :S
[23:53] <richnusgeeks> n even the git books are there
[23:53] <@lut4rp> you just compared an 18 wheeler truck to a Formula 1 car
[23:53] <tanamania> Hi lut4rp, welcome back
[23:53] <BaloneyGeek> I think Google Docs is the best bet right now
[23:53] <@lut4rp> sup
[23:53] <tanamania> BaloneyGeek +1
[23:53] <richnusgeeks> Both are distrubuted VCSs and even commans are similar
[23:54] <gajendrank> -1
[23:54] <BaloneyGeek> We don't have truckloads of content coming in, so don't need a VC right now
[23:54] <tanamania> gajendrak Who will sponsor the web space for a wiki?
[23:54] <@lut4rp> whacha talkin about ppl
[23:54] <BaloneyGeek> So we have a domain? where we can set up Google docs?
[23:54] <tanamania> lut4rp OSScamp magazine
[23:54] <BaloneyGeek> I meant Apps?
[23:54] <gajendrank> tanamania: doesn't the osscamp site have webspace.
[23:54] <richnusgeeks> VC provides u more things, it's not about the load but managing the changes
[23:55] <gajendrank> the same one canbe used.
[23:55] <tanamania> gajendrak that's sponsored by OSSCube
[23:55] <@lut4rp> tanamania, lolwot
[23:55] <BaloneyGeek> does OSSCamp have Google Apps?
[23:55] <@lut4rp> OSScamp magazine?
[23:55] <@lut4rp> for what?
[23:55] <gajendrank> another option is to make a project on sourceforge.net . we can put our openoffice docs there.
[23:55] <gajendrank> repositories come free with that.
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[23:56] <BaloneyGeek> gajendrank: Overkill
[23:56] <gajendrank> seems philosophically more satisfying.
[23:56] <richnusgeeks> Ok! use what Linux guys used in the starting, mails + tarballs
[23:57] <@lut4rp> Why in the world do you need an OSScamp magazine?
[23:57] <richnusgeeks> patches
[23:57] <@lut4rp> What's wrong with the blog?
[23:57] <gajendrank> there are many free wiki sites too.
[23:57] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: You missed that part of the conversation
[23:57] <tanamania> lut4rp blog is good, we can include a article per magazine from the blog too!
[23:57] <richnusgeeks> We are all aware of the sites that is why we are saying
[23:57] <@lut4rp> See, I have a certain point to make :)
[23:57] <@lut4rp> The thing is
[23:58] <richnusgeeks> What about those who come osscamp first time and have no clue?
[23:58] <@lut4rp> I've been involved with OSScamp since 2007.
[23:58] <@lut4rp> and except for 1 or 2, the rest have been filled with major part of pointless issues
[23:58] <@lut4rp> The reason for that, I still attribute to "trying to do too much"
[23:59] <@lut4rp> you ask me, all you need in a FOSS conf/unconf, are 2 things
[23:59] <@lut4rp> 1. free wifi
[23:59] <@lut4rp> 2. free food
[23:59] <richnusgeeks> I think 5 outcomes of this chat r already out
[23:59] <@lut4rp> that's it.
[23:59] <@lut4rp> And for the record, OSScamp has very rarely given both :)
[23:59] <BaloneyGeek> Happy Moday. Anybody got office today?
[23:59] <BaloneyGeek> :P
[23:59] <gajendrank> both aren't really necessary if someone is really trying to learn.
[23:59] <tanamania> lut4rp OSScamp Pantnagar May 2010 did :P
[23:59] <gajendrank> @BaloneyGeek: me.
[00:00] <@lut4rp> gajendrank, nope, *very* necessary
[00:00] <@lut4rp> in fact, without free wifi, a geek conference is useless.
[00:00] <richnusgeeks> Ok! guys bye tc, some other committments
[00:00] <gajendrank> i differ on that.
[00:00] <gajendrank> maybe we can all start again tomorrow.
[00:00] <tanamania> richnusgeek So what is your final say on the magazine?
[00:00] <@lut4rp> everyone is entitled to their opinion :)
[00:01] <@lut4rp> gajendrank, DrupalCon is probably the largest FOSS conf I've been to
[00:01] <@lut4rp> This year, they had more than 3000 attendees
[00:01] <tanamania> lut4rp: What is the disadvantage in having a OSScamp magazine?
[00:01] <@lut4rp> all they had, was free wifi and sessions.
[00:01] <@lut4rp> that's it.
[00:01] <richnusgeeks> Every conf publish some proceedings n papers in print form
[00:01] <@lut4rp> tanamania, I think a blog is enough
[00:02] <@lut4rp> A magazine is overkill
[00:02] <@lut4rp> I prescribe to the notion of "Remove everything till you can't remove anything else.
[00:02] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: Its a proof of concept
[00:02] <tanamania> lut4rp Look at the blog! How many articles we have there!!
[00:02] <@lut4rp> tanamania, we have none.
[00:02] <@lut4rp> Great, start writing on the blog.
[00:02] <richnusgeeks> ok! bye tc
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[00:03] <@lut4rp> ta ta
[00:03] <tanamania> richnusgeek Bye!
[00:03] <gajendrank> on the other hand, any articles we may think of making may already exist on the net in some form. lets avoid duplication.
[00:03] <@lut4rp> gajendrank, exactly
[00:03] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: How many people read a blog for major articles?
[00:03] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, if it has content, people will read it
[00:03] <tanamania> gajendrak lut4rp: Thats the whole point of making content accessible!
[00:03] <BaloneyGeek> like, how to configure MySQL clusters?
[00:03] <@lut4rp> I wouldn't read "5 ways you can use your bash prompt"
[00:04] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, see, this is why I didn't want a blog in the first place.
[00:04] <@lut4rp> I wanted a planet
[00:04] <tanamania> planet?
[00:04] <BaloneyGeek> portal?
[00:04] <@lut4rp> Let the user post on his blog, get traffic to himself, and let it be tracked on the planet directly
[00:04] <gajendrank> we should concentrate on attracting more college students and working professionals. the magazine doesn't do that.
[00:04] <@lut4rp> tanamania, a feed aggregator
[00:04] <@lut4rp> like, http://drupal.org/planet
[00:05] <tanamania> gajendrak So what u suggest we can do to attract them?
[00:05] <@lut4rp> gajendrank, we can only do that if we have quality content.
[00:05] <gajendrank> reach out to them.
[00:05] <@lut4rp> Get free food, get free wifi.
[00:05] <gajendrank> more than quality content, we need something to attract. including the above.
[00:05] <@lut4rp> Do a good simple conf, let people meet themselves
[00:06] <@lut4rp> You be consistent, people will come
[00:06] <tanamania> that is after people come to the camp
[00:06] <@lut4rp> OSScamp dropped in attendance *only* because some of the camps in 2008 were pretty bad
[00:06] <tanamania> my point is that magazine is not doing harm to the community
[00:06] <gajendrank> free wifi is overrated anyway. Most students who come don't have laptops.
[00:07] <@lut4rp> you're kidding :)
[00:07] <tanamania> if a bunch of people want to contributre in that way, there is absolutely no harm
[00:07] <@lut4rp> how do you expect me to show someone how to patch a Drupal 7 issue, how would you do that without internet?
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[00:07] <gajendrank> the speaker can have net if he needs.
[00:07] <@lut4rp> uhh, no
[00:07] <tanamania> free wifi is an *absolute* must!
[00:07] <@lut4rp> *everyone* should have internet
[00:08] <tanamania> not free food though.. ;)
[00:08] <@lut4rp> ok, not even DrupalCon has free food P
[00:08] <@lut4rp> :P
[00:08] <@lut4rp> but give me free wifi and I can teach a man to hack and patch in an hour :)
[00:08] <tanamania> ok, so gajendrak talked about attracting people to the camps
[00:08] <gajendrank> so the teacher alone needs.
[00:08] <BaloneyGeek> OSI Tech Days does have free feed but not free WIFi
[00:08] <BaloneyGeek> and they are successful
[00:09] <BaloneyGeek> *food
[00:09] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, which is why barely any hacker attends them :)
[00:09] <@lut4rp> however, you find the highest concentration of Indian contribs in FOSS.in
[00:09] <tanamania> we can do it by having some influential speakers, to enhance the content at the camps!
[00:09] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: You ought to have seen the Virtualization session in OSI last year
[00:09] <@lut4rp> tanamania, this is not a conference, we are not doing that
[00:09] <gajendrank> i think we need a T20 style osscamp and more will come. food/wifi optional not essential.
[00:10] <gajendrank> people get bored over one or two days
[00:10] <BaloneyGeek> gajendrak: t20?
[00:10] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, have you been to foss.in ?
[00:10] <gajendrank> yes short, quick like T20
[00:10] <BaloneyGeek> lut4rp: no
[00:10] <tanamania> lut4rp We did that in MozCampDel and it was very very successful!
[00:10] <gajendrank> come, present, connect to the audience, show what's possible and disappear.
[00:10] <@lut4rp> gajendrank, agree with that.
[00:10] <gajendrank> rest can be done on the group/site etc.
[00:11] <@lut4rp> If people know that every 3 months, something happens here
[00:11] <@lut4rp> and you can come no matter what
[00:11] <@lut4rp> people *will* come
[00:11] <@lut4rp> however, we've ended up with an overkill website, people wanting to do everything with the "community" and what not
[00:12] <gajendrank> even articles can be made in T20 sessions.
[00:12] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, http://foss.in/2009/schedules/
[00:12] <tanamania> lut4rp: the community is necessary, to reach out to the masses!
[00:12] <@lut4rp> tanamania, of course it is, but we don't need to "force" them
[00:12] <@lut4rp> Just provide a medium, people will come
[00:13] <tanamania> lut4rp we arent forcing anyone!
[00:13] <@lut4rp> tanamania, unfortunately, asking people to be in #osscamp over time by Kinshuk, was equivalent to spam.
[00:13] <@lut4rp> I forgot to talk about that with him.
[00:13]  * lut4rp notes it down for later
[00:13] <@lut4rp> tanamania, a *lot* of people were pissed over that
[00:13] <@lut4rp> I don't give a damn about your osscamp.in, just tell me where I can meet passionate people.
[00:14] <@lut4rp> ^ THAT is what people want.
[00:14] <tanamania> lut4rp We need to attract passionate people to the camp.
[00:14] <gajendrank> i'll leave now. maybe we need another irc session sometime.
[00:14] <@lut4rp> tanamania, I've already given you the recipe.
[00:14] <@lut4rp> You do that, and you'll find people.
[00:14] <gajendrank> cya all
[00:15]  * lut4rp wishes he had fundings for a hacker lounge
[00:15] <BaloneyGeek> all: I need to apply the law of two feet to myself now
[00:15] <tanamania> lut4rp What? Free wifi and free food?
[00:15] <@lut4rp> BaloneyGeek, :)
[00:15] <BaloneyGeek> bye
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[00:15] <tanamania> Bye BaloneyGeek and gajendrak
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[00:15] <@lut4rp> tanamania, free wifi for sure, free food, not really
[00:15] <tanamania> see i tell you a fact, we had OSScamp Pantnagar and had free wifi and even free food
[00:16] <@lut4rp> Trust me, nothing was worse than trying to commit some Drupal code a couple of osscamps ago, and finding that the CVS port was blocked :/
[00:16] <tanamania> but we didnt get passionate people
[00:16] <@lut4rp> tanamania, lol man, you did that in a *college*
[00:16] <thecodecracker> and free backtrack 4 dvd's ;)
[00:16] <tanamania> the reason was simple - people didnt find any motivation to take a 6 hour drive from delhi to pantnagar to attend the unconference here
[00:16] <@lut4rp> Most college kids are idiots. They need to be forced into things. This is India. That is how our culture works.
[00:16] <@lut4rp> Exactly.
[00:17] <@lut4rp> which is why I've been telling Kinshuk I wish some company gave us the same venue every month
[00:17] <@lut4rp> or say, every 3 months
[00:17] <tanamania> they would have got the motivation if some RMS or anyone else, even some lut4rp would have been here!
[00:17] <@lut4rp> tanamania, I don't believe in forced motivation and I hate people fawning over me.
[00:18] <@lut4rp> Its all nice and shiny to see lut4rp talk about Drupal stuff
[00:18] <@lut4rp> but when it comes down to making your db_query faster than 6 ms, you won't show me your face :)
[00:18] <tanamania> lut4rp you are not getting the whole point
[00:18] <tanamania> same venue everytime in delhi means that we are not reaching out to the masses!
[00:19] <@lut4rp> Uhm, I'm not? :/
[00:19] <@lut4rp> Oh of course we are.
[00:19] <tanamania> same venue, similar people
[00:19] <@lut4rp> lol no man :)
[00:19] <@lut4rp> the first 3 osscamps had all sorts of different and recurring people
[00:19] <@lut4rp> and they were awesome.
[00:19] <tanamania> what about those who live hundreds of kms away from delhi?
[00:20] <@lut4rp> They can either travel, or do a small OSScamp in their city
[00:20] <@lut4rp> I'd do an OSScamp at my home, man :)
[00:20] <tanamania> lut4rp Agree that everyone isnt a geek, but there are people who need to be taught things as an initiation
[00:20] <tanamania> and theat is where the concept of OSScamp community initiatives comes in
[00:21] <@lut4rp> tanamania, we do have basic sessions at OSScamp.
[00:21] <@lut4rp> I gave one on version control at the last one
[00:22] <tanamania> I have seen people asking questions like "What is the difference between Ubuntu and Linux" in OSScamp, what about this kind of junta?
[00:22] <@lut4rp> I'm ready to talk to them :)
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[00:22] <@lut4rp> the thing is, this is a big issue in the Indian culture.
[00:22] <@lut4rp> We like to be spoonfed.
[00:23] <@lut4rp> Instead, I've tried to give people basic knowledge in my sessions and forced them to google themselves
[00:23] <@lut4rp> and it was worked surprisingly well :)
[00:23] <tanamania> Ok, i will make it simpler - let's keep OSScamp and OSScamp Community Initiatives seperate
[00:23] <@lut4rp> Ahh.
[00:23] <@lut4rp> OK.
[00:23] <tanamania> Everyone who comes to the camp wants to learn something
[00:24] <tanamania> see u wont like to come to a camp and teach people the steps to install ubuntu
[00:25] <@lut4rp> I'm fine with that, and I've done that :)
[00:25] <tanamania> or for that matter, telling the attendees that Windows is not what your computer is
[00:25] <@lut4rp> I'm fine with anything, but I should have resources to show people more.
[00:27] <tanamania> Ok, so what your suggestion is as a roadmap for the community?
[00:27] <@lut4rp> Get me a venue, get me nice wifi, get me lots of power extensions
[00:27] <@lut4rp> I will get people.
[00:28] <tanamania> Ok, so let's try for an OSScamp somewhere in Uttarakhand after OSScamp at Amity
[00:29] <@lut4rp> Wouldn't be a resounding success, but sure, why not?
[00:29] <tanamania> Then we'll see how much of that is *actually* feasible!
[00:29] <@lut4rp> as long as it is recurring I don't have issues.
[00:29] <tanamania> So shall we call it a day here?
[00:29] <@lut4rp> I still want OSScamp Delhi to rival foss.in
[00:29] <tanamania> It will for sure!
[00:30] <@lut4rp> sure, night!
[00:30] <tanamania> Good night everyone!! :)
[00:30] <thecodecracker> Good nite
[00:30] <thecodecracker> :)
[00:32] <@lut4rp> tanamania, something before you go... http://pratul.in/sweet-results-of-evangelism
[00:33] <tanamania> lut4rp That's commendable, keep up the geeky good work. Good night.. :)
[00:33] <@lut4rp> tanamania, :)
[00:34] <@lut4rp> That only happens because I know every year at IITK, during first weeks of Feb, awesome people meet and talk about FOSS :)

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